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Vertical Response Tells Their Side of Stonegate

by: phillip anderson

Thu Oct 18, 2007 at 18:18:13 PM EDT


Remember when Bouldin and I told you about this:

BROKEN: Roger Stone's "linkedcampaign.com" Is a Sham

When Bouldin and I were researching "linkedcampaign.com" we found that that particular domain redirected to a site for a company called Vertical Response, an email marketing company. We were puzzled as to why a seemingly perfectly legit company would resort to using a service like Domains by Proxy to obscure details about who runs such a site.

We were right to wonder because Vertical Response did no such thing. Roger Stone did. Stone is redirecting his own creation, "linkedcampaign", to Vertical Response and the Vertical Response folks aren't too happy about it.

Well, Vertical Response is finally telling their side of the story:

Someone Tried to Put One Over on VR? I don't think so...

It's 6:00 on a Tuesday evening, I've just arrived home, and what do I find in my inbox but a fairly cryptic email from Janine that says:

 

Does this make sense to you?

  http://www.thealbany...

I followed the link and found a blog article discussing some particularly annoying sounding political spam going out through a company called "linkedcampaign.com."  Makes sense so far.  But then I read:

 

Linked Campaign is an email marketing service provided by a company called VerticalResponse Self Service Direct Marketing in San Francisco, with servers in North Carolina.

This, of course, did not make sense at all.  First, I know we don't offer any sort of service called Linked Campaign.  Second, all our servers live here in San Francisco with us and don't often make the journey to North Carolina (at least not while they're on the clock).  Third, the type of mail described in the blog post would be very unlikely to make it out through our system.

Why would a blogger think we offered this "Linked Campaign" service?  I went to the linkedcampaign.com website in hopes of finding out.  And I certainly did find out:

Linkedcampaign.com was nothing more than a copy of our entire website as it appeared in March of this year!

I immediately commented to the blog post (and emailed the Albany Project owner) to explain the situation.  They very quickly edited the article and posted two very detailed correction posts explaining that we were not involved with the problem email.  I couldn't have dealt with nicer, more professional people than the folks at the Albany Project.

I then set out to track down the owner of Linked Campaign.  This was complicated by their use of Domains by Proxy to hide their WHOIS info (the owner of every website is required to have their contact info published to a WHOIS record, which can usually be looked up by anyone).  Domains by Proxy refused to release the information to me without a Court Order or a Subpoena.  I understood this was necessary to protect their customers, but that didn't make it any less frustrating (or any less suspicious that the owner of a website that was a copy of our site was hiding their WHOIS info).

Luckily, the spam emails had gone out through a perfectly traceable IP Address that led back to Road Runner (an ISP).  I contacted Road Runner, discovered they were hosting the linkedcampaign.com website, explained the situation, and they took the website down.

Ahhh...memories.

phillip anderson :: Vertical Response Tells Their Side of Stonegate
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to be fair (2.67 / 3)
the "nicer, more professional" people were most likely the daily gotham folks. i say that because everyone knows that we here at TAP are mean and less than professional...

TODAY is day one. It always is.

Are they persuing any legal action? (0.00 / 0)
Or letting it drop at that?

A cease and desist order perhaps?

Something on the legal record?


[ Parent ]
Surprising, i am not that much (0.00 / 1)
  computer "literate".  Still, i know there is linkage that can be proven re. web sites. scceesh. sigh. Wish the Rep.ignorance could translate into large congressional losses into State and National legislatures.(sp?)

You there... (4.00 / 2)
...enough with the Nyberg 3s, please.

[ Parent ]
I'm guessing that reference (4.00 / 3)
went over yorkoceans head (or under their feet).

You might explain the logic behind having a rating system that goes from 0-4 where only 0 and 4 are valid ratings. LOL

There might be some who actually think the numbers inbetween are available for use since they are available for use. ROTFLMAO


[ Parent ]
i've been meaning to scrap 1-3 (1.33 / 3)
for ages now. maybe it's time to actually do it.

TODAY is day one. It always is.

[ Parent ]
Heh. (4.00 / 1)
Yeah, I think he's talking about me :-)

Oh, and nice people Bruno is working with. I may have to post about this; remember, I have the screenshots.


Please do. (0.00 / 0)
These are the hacks of the party whose ostensible Assembly leader is letting us know that he trusts NYS's top cop less than "Son of Sam."  People who don't understand the tech aspects may not get it at first-- but these hacks are masked men stealing private property here.  That should be news... I know, y'all tried.  Sometimes folks are thick.  Try again.

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