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On Spitzer And DOJ's 'Public Integrity'

by: phillip anderson

Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 22:27:12 PM EDT


Once again, I'm not trying to excuse what the governor all but admitted to today, but there are plenty of good, reasonable questions about how this investigation came about that deserve answers. Scott Horton at Harper's lays it out there:

However, there is a second tier of questions that needs to be examined with respect to the Spitzer case. They go to prosecutorial motivation and direction. Note that this prosecution was managed with staffers from the Public Integrity Section at the Department of Justice. This section is now at the center of a major scandal concerning politically directed prosecutions. During the Bush Administration, his Justice Department has opened 5.6 cases against Democrats for every one involving a Republican. Beyond this, a number of the cases seem to have been tied closely to election cycles. Indeed, a study of the cases out of Alabama shows clearly that even cases opened against Republicans are in fact only part of a broader pattern of going after Democrats. So here are the rather amazing facts that surface in the Spitzer case:

(1) The prosecutors handling the case came from the Public Integrity Section.

(2) The prosecution is opened under the White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910. You read that correctly. The statute itself is highly disreputable, and most of the high-profile cases brought under it were politically motivated and grossly abusive. Here are a few:

     Heavyweight boxing champion Jack Johnson was the first man prosecuted under the act - for having an affair with Lucille Cameron, whom he later married. The prosecution was manifestly an effort "to get" Johnson, who at the time was the most famous African-American. (All of this is developed well in Ken Burns's film "Unforgiveable Blackness").

     University of Chicago sociologist William I. Thomas was prosecuted for having an affair with an officer's wife in France. Thomas was targeted because of his Bohemian social and his radical political views.

     In 1944 Charles Chaplin was prosecuted for having an affair with actress Joan Barry. The prosecution again provided cover for a politically motivated effort to drive Chaplin out of the country.

     Canadian author Elizabeth Smart was arrested and charged in 1940 while crossing the border with the British poet George Barker.

(3) The resources dedicated to the case in terms of prosecutors and investigators are extraordinary.

(4) How the investigation got started. The Justice Department has yet to give a full account of why they were looking into Spitzer's payments, and indeed the suggestion in the ABC account is that it didn't have anything to do with a prostitution ring. The suggestion that this was driven by an IRS inquiry and involved a bank might heighten, rather than allay, concerns of a politically motivated prosecution.

All of these facts are consistent with a process which is not the investigation of a crime, but rather an attempt to target and build a case against an individual.

The answer of the Justice Department to all this is likely to be: Trust us. But in the current environment, the reservoir of trust is tapped. The Justice Department needs to submit to some questions about how this probe got launched, who launched it, and to what extent political appointees were involved in its direction. This has nothing to do with Spitzer's guilt or innocence. But it has everything to do with the fading integrity of the Public Integrity Section.

Once again, just sayin'.

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Yes, this aspect needs to be examined (4.00 / 3)
but unfortunately Spitzer provided them with some incredible ammunition.  That part can't be fixed.

Argh.


agreed (4.00 / 2)
the genesis of this investigation may be suspect, and we should dig deeper here, but it's not like anyone coerced eliot to arrange a date with a call girl or anything.

argh, indeed.

TODAY is day one. It always is.


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He should have known better (4.00 / 3)
Having vowed to take on the Republican machine in Albany, having made himself Enemy #1 of Wall Street profiteers, and having set himself up as Mr. Squeaky Clean, Spitzer was a damned fool not to know that even a minor transgression -- and this one is major -- would expose himself to charges of hypocrisy, or worse.

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agreed (0.00 / 0)
100%.

TODAY is day one. It always is.

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Folks, this explains why Bush wants warrantless wiretaps (0.00 / 0)
Just sayin' what should be obvious by now.  

Also, the current DOJ should not be permitted to have any section refer to itself as 'public integrity' until they weed out the Rovian, Bush protecting robots.  


Yes. (4.00 / 1)
And, we would do much better to be debating this at the policy/theoretical level, with the FISA legislation, than be cast as trying to defend the indefensible once somebody is caught.  It is true, all humans (and, forgive me being sexist, but, in my experience, especially men) have frailties, vanities, and moments of self-absorbed hypocrisy.  If you look aggressively, you can find something in almost anybody. Just like if you use torture, you can get almost anyone to confess, even to things they didn't do.

Have you ever thought much about how, ever since Nixon, the Republicans have really been emulating the Chinese government?  Not in ideology, of course, but definitely in methodology.


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If you read the complaint... (0.00 / 0)
the only thing that bothers me is the wording they use. It reads as if Spitzer is not just a one-time customer. It sounded like he knew what he was looking for. There's also mention of a "credit" he had, which if he had an existing account with them, would make sense.

There are a lot of questions to ask here, but not all of them on Spitzer's end.

I can't wait for the day when the DOJ is independent once again. It'll be a good day for politics and a good day for America.  


Spitzer should not resign (4.00 / 2)
Look. He has made a really gigantic mistake. He may not ever be President of the United States but he can still be Governor of New York.

If the law does not force him from office through the trial system; then what he should do is ask for forgiveness from the people of New York. Like Clinton, I bet if we were to gauge Spitzer's approval ratings in the next few weeks he'll probably be somewhere around 50%. Even Alan Hevesi won reelection despite his wrongdoing!

What Spitzer has to say to the public is: "I ask for your forgiveness," "if you'll have me I want to serve you for the rest of my term". In 2010, I will be on the ballot and if you feel that forgiveness was never warranted then vote me out". You'll be able to gauge all of this by his approval ratings.  


Nonsense (0.00 / 0)
He cannot credibly carry forth the cause of reform now. His actions are a rank hypocrisy and a disgrace to his reputation.

A clean slate with Paterson is the only hope for changing Albany.

I have to wonder: What would Spitzer have to do to convince some people that he should resign? Where do you draw the line?  


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Well, for starters (0.00 / 0)
What would Spitzer have to do to convince some people that he should resign?

...do something, like, illegal, which he hasn't.  


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Isn't soliciting illegal? (0.00 / 0)
I've seen the he hasn't done anything illegal line posted, but I'm at a loss as to exactly how that's possible.  

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Visceral reaction (0.00 / 0)
I think there will be a giant gender gap on this one.  Sex between mutually-interested adults, which is what Clinton was involved in, is really different for some of us than the idea of being comfortable with the buying, renting and selling of women as sexual property.  I was disgusted with Joe Bruno about it, and I am disgusted with Spitzer about it, too.

I think there is a LOT of sexual aspect to the Albany culture of corruption (I first decided not to accept a job working there after a strong sense of disgust with the whole scene set in when the Michael Boxley story hit).  And, it may sound hokey to some, but, I am very offended by the idea of the Governor belonging to an "Emperor's Club" with a logo that is a crown, even if they weren't in the business of selling women.


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Don Siegelman all over again. (0.00 / 0)
Typical Bush DoJ procedure: prosecute a leading Democrat for stuff that you don't prosecute Rs for. That's why David Vitter is still a Senator: no leaks to the press, no massive manpower dedicated to investigating him, etc.

Spitzer's crime? He's a Democrat. If we drop him over this, they win. It's that simple.  


The real deal (0.00 / 0)
France and the rest of the world is laughing at us.  As in Monica -  SO what? Really so what?  He might even have the balls to say that.  THEN I'd respect him.  SO WHAT?  Its only nookie.  WHo cares about nookie?  Lest say you had a shot at some free nookie.  Would ya?  

Its not like he was selling this country out for oil or or the rapture.  We are talkin about an adult penus and a woman.  As if that is a reflection of anything else.

Again its not like a family values guy with a WIDE stance and ya know what?  So what.  What we are talkin about here is a penuses.  OMG call the PD!  Spitzer has a penus!


Blackmail (0.00 / 0)
When a head of state opens himself to the possibility of being blackmailed, it is not "no big deal."  The US and its voters don't have the attitude of France or Thailand, and, therefore, something like this has the potential to end a politician's career.... so, doing something like this, even if the poltically-motivated DOJ is the only reason he got caught shows a fatal lack of good judgement.  He put himself in a position in which he could have been controlled by others.  That is serious.

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Yes. (4.00 / 1)
It took a special kind of stupid, and arrogance, for Spitzer to get involved in this, and it does seriously damage, if not completely destroy, his 'reform Albany' message.  For that reason alone he should probably make an exit.  But, I think that the other pieces of this story, re: a politicized DOJ, shouldn't be ignored over the long term and should be discussed especially when prominent Republicans like Senator Vitter from Louisiana have not been held accountable for doing the same exact thing.  

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Disgust is an emotion we in the reform movement might work with a bit.... (4.00 / 1)
Face it, gang, the politicization of the DOJ, touch-screen voting machines being slipped in to allow a path to vote-tinkering, powerful politicians screwing... well, screwing anything they want to screw, I guess...  I think those of us who understand that our government is for sale are feeling some familiarity in our disgust.

There are two possible voter reactions here in response to widespread public disgust with politicians: cynicism-resignation or reform.

CLEAN MONEY/CLEAN ELECIONS Dump the proven untrustworthy, send in a cleaning crew, and start over with a new, level playing field and fair electoral competition.  


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we need to talk less about power, (0.00 / 0)
and start talking more about trust.

I was happy about Spitzer because I thought he had the power to bring down a legislature which had lost the trust of the people - but sending power against power turned out to be the wrong answer.

This is a hard problem - politics by its nature attracts people interested in power, and trust often seems important to them only when it can help them get power.

Unfortunately, this is going to make it awfully hard for voters to trust.


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Last week=Aubertine (0.00 / 0)
And this conveniently leaks now.  Spitzer made a bonehead move, but the timing seems just too perfect.  

I was just glad (4.00 / 4)
that this came out after that election.

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too perfect? (4.00 / 1)
If this was some conspiracy, then don't you think it would have been leaked BEFORE the special election??? People need to stop blaming republicans and just blame Spitzer. Nobody made him think with his wank instead of his head. He did it himself and it appears that from a reading of the idnictment it was not the first time. For those of you who say he didn't do anything illegal. Assuming it is proven - he is a "john" - an individual who uses prostitutes. Under NYS law, and I assume the feds, it is illegal. Moreover, as someone who was the chief law enforcement officer of the state, he knows that money laundering, drug crimes, and other "bad things" that are illegal are tied directly to escort services. One last point...Someone in another post typed republican = hypocracy. There could be no greater hypocracy, whether he is indicted, charged, or whatever it may be, than the leader of our state, the man with the highest of ethics, cheating on his wife, hurting his children, and getting invovled with something that at its base is morally (again it is illegal) wrong. This is the height of hypocracy. Before we start throwing stones at all the republicans we need to look at ourselves. Just ask the last three idiots who have disgraced NY and happen to be democrats - Adam Clayton Powell, Brian McLauglin, and now Spitzer. In fact, historically, other than Vallela, it appears to be largely a NYC democrat thing. Its pretty sad.

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For the record (4.00 / 1)
I think he should resign if the facts bear out.  A corrupt DOJ does not excuse what he did, but a corrupt DOJ is still a cirrupt DOJ.

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a friend wrote to me in an email: (4.00 / 2)
The question before us this afternoon was: if these allegations are true, should he resign? The answer most folks seem to have come to is, "yes, certainly."

Now that we've had time to think it over, there's a separate question: if these allegations originated in a partisan witch hunt for Democratic governors, should we scream bloody murder? The almost certain answer to that question is, "absofuckinglutely."




TODAY is day one. It always is.

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this is about political capital (4.00 / 1)
In all of the meticulous legalistic and investigative picking-over of the investigation and who's running it and why and what the nature of sex and privacy is... I haven't yet seen anyone propose how Spitzer could possibly regain political capital in Albany after this latest blow.

Who are going to be his allies in the Assembly, in the Senate?  What moral authority does he now have to rally ordinary people to his cause?  Is he really the only game in town any more?

The dynamics of politics and the reality of governing continue, no matter what.  You'd think political bloggers would want to consider that part.


thanks for the reminder of reality (0.00 / 0)
Much as it would be nice to make this about evil Republicans, it's unfortunately really about New York State, and a trust deficit that makes our budget accounting look sane.

If Spitzer stays, the trainwreck will get even even worse, tearing up the tracks and everything around them, not just the locomotive that jumped the rails.


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Certainly targeted... (4.00 / 3)
but also certainly stupid. It may sound paranoid, but if I were him I would have realized that I had made enemies over the years as AG and even more as Gov. And then there are all those Republicans who consider politics a dirty-tricks duel to the death. I worked for Tom Suozzi, I have seen his demeanor close up, and I'm not shocked that there would be people working to destroy him. I though him obnoxious, but never stupid before yesterday. I'm shocked that he handed them the tools to do it.  

the main subject is about a old law (0.00 / 0)
Yes Mr. Spitzer may be guilty of violating a 1910 act.  But, an old law is just as good a law as a new one.  Besides, being an Atty General, he probably had plenty of time to read all the laws of the state and nation.  
If Mr. Spitzer is guilty he must resign as he would disobey any state oath to fight ny crime.  I feel sorry for NY.  We need to get rid of bad old laws too.


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