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AD-64: Quality Commentary by Bouldin and Errol Louis

by: Roatti

Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 19:28:11 PM EDT


Errol Louis wrote about the AD-64 race in his column on Sunday, calling it the single most important political contest in New York this year:

The single most important political contest in New York this year is the reelection race of Manhattan Assemblyman Sheldon Silver, a Democrat who doubles as speaker of the state Assembly - the second most-powerful post in state government after governor.

I would actually argue that Silver is more powerful than the governor, because the Governor can have his veto overridden by 2/3 of the Legislature, whereas Silver's refusal to bring a bill to a vote can not be overridden by any amount of the other Assemblymembers.  But nonetheless, he continues:

Fewer than 12,000 voters are expected to cast ballots in the 64th District, which covers all or part of the lower East Side, the East Village, Chinatown, Wall Street and Battery Park City.

But their choice will affect New York's 19 million residents.

That's because the screwed-up setup in Albany places vast influence in the hands of three men: governor, Senate majority leader - and Assembly speaker.

Every year, the trio negotiate the state budget in near-total secrecy before dumping a phone-book-size document on the desks of legislators for a vote within minutes of receiving it.

(snip)

They will be voting - for the 19 million of us who can't - on the record of a powerful pol who has, for too long, been accountable to nobody.  

That's essentially Albany in a nutshell for ya.  

And Bouldin puts the length of time Silver has been accountable to nobody in persepctive:

Think about this for a moment: one elected official, with power equal to or greater than that of any statewide elected official, has gone over two decades without a challenge. When Silver was last challenged, Gorbachev was running the Soviet Union, Ronald Reagan was President, and a guy named Barack Obama had just moved to Chicago to become a community organizer.

Bouldin also notes how it's amazing how a contested election can get a legislator to... actually give a $#!T about how his constituents percieve him:

This primary has been nothing but salutary for the people of that district. Suddenly, there's a mobile constituent services office - which leads one to wonder why that didn't seem to be a worthy idea in a year when the Speaker isn't getting challenged at the polls - a rumored if unconfirmed campaign web site, and repeated appearances by the incumbent in a district he's all but neglected in favor of the gleaming marble offices of the Albany Capitol.

While despite his 22% approval rating, Silver will probably get re-elected in this election because the opposition is split between two challengers, I don't think there's anything controversial about saying that this challenge has been a good exercise in democracy for a pol who's been unaccountable for far too long.  

And while many people lament that despite the "three men in a room" changing between Pataki, Spitzer, Paterson, Bruno, and Skelos the structure never changes, I would argue that nothing has changed because none of those men have been changed at the ballot box.  If the voters do indeed revolt, it could at least bring the possibility of structural reform.  

Roatti :: AD-64: Quality Commentary by Bouldin and Errol Louis
Poll
What were you doing in 1986?
Watching the Amazin Mets
Waiting to see what was inside Al Capone's box
Watching that new young Kid named Roger Clemens
I wasn't born yet!

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Silver's record (4.00 / 1)
I have been frustrated by Silver on his intransigence on a few issues, (West side stadium, allowing the LILCO bailout, and Congestion pricing), I find your blanket criticism of his performance way off base.

For those of you who are a little younger (which is a good thing, don't misunderstand me) you need to understand  that Silver came to power only a few months before the 1994 debacle.

If you weren't active in politics in 1994-96 you can't imagine how hard a time it was for progressives and liberals. Al D'amato was a on the cover of New York magazine for crying out loud and it was "hip" to be a Conservative.

When conventional wisdom said "kiss up" and play nice with the Repub's, Shelly said "not in my house" and proceeded to thwart some brutal attempts by Pataki (who came to power espousing Gingrich/Reagan overhauls)to decimate NY laws and services. Not to mention that Bruno too, was a hard line conservative, far different from what he evolved into towards the final years. These guys ended their tenures far more moderate than they arrived only because Shelly said no.

In order to maintain a united opposition he held a tight rein, no doubt, but having divided voices has always been an inherent Democratic weakness. If such division was permitted, there never would have been the resurgence that led to the Veto-proof majority.

We would have lost rent control outright, education would have been gutted, the pension plans would have been underfunded, the environmental bond act never would have been developed or adopted, along with many other good things that we care about.

Also, he has delivered big-time for his District. Have you seen what Bowery and Allen looks like now compared to 15 years ago?  This used to be a high poverty, high crime part of the city. Certainly many things have contributed to improvements in NYC's quality of life and having an Assemblyman who is Speaker to bring major pork for the District is one of them.

I know that some readers to this site don't like pork but the reality is that pork is how you serve your constituents in any governmental body.

My point here is not to be a Shelly fanboy but to give some perspective that his means have justified the ends throughout his tenure.

Indeed with misguided taxcap being pushed by Paterson and a bellicose Spitzer before, his "I will not be moved" still has a place.

Openness and committees and conferences are great, but not if it means a lack of production of a progressive agenda.

I won't argue that he and this style may be less ans less necessary and that a change might not be warranted in the near future, but not yet and certainly not through a primary defeat.

That would be the worst thing possible to do to someone who had a key role to play in the rebirth of a strong Democratic party. We should appreciate and celebrate his successes while gently nudging to either modify or if at this point in his life he can't) then out the door.  


That's a fair argument (4.00 / 2)
But even to concede that Shelly served an important purpose in the mid-90's, the political terrain has shifted since then.  Now, we Democrats have the luxury of supporting not just any Democrat, but the best Democrat.  Now the issues aren't fighting the tide of the Republican revolution, but fundamentally reforming the way our state government does business and cleaning house in both parties.  

I guess we agree to disagree, but I appreciate your feedback an dpoint of view.  


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I remember too well (0.00 / 0)
You bring back memories jacksonian that send a shiver down my aging Democratic spine. If you weren't around for those dark years you just don't get the enormity of it. But we are a throwaway society now. The past means little. We want immediate change. We want the best. I was around for those dark years for 'Oh No Cuomo' and the like. I have never forgotten the power the Republicans road in on in 1994. I believe the Democratic Assembly lost 6 Seats in that storm, I don't recall perfectly. I do remember how they boasted Silver was next, he was finished. Democrats shed their Liberal side. The Liberal party lost their ballot line in the aftermath. Everyone moved to the right. But that brave guy Silver didn't and held his conference together and he's still around. To everyone's astonishment they grew their numbers on progressive issues. I too am not moving fast on this one to discard someone who kept and still keeps so much bad from happening. The anti-abortion and parental consent measures blocked, defense of marriage blocked, reinstatement of death penalty blocked, tuition increases blocked, welfare cuts blocked, English only blocked, dismantling gun restrictions blocked. It's funny how people don't believe how fast that stuff can come flooding out. Well, like they say -- don't know what you got til it's gone.  

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Is that really an argument? (4.00 / 1)
What you're saying amounts to a case for effective whips, not a one-person legislature. Sure, essentially non-democratic systems often produce results, but that's not really the point, is it?

New York is a blue state. The Democrats hold an advantage in the Assembly of better than two to one. Both of our Senators are Democrats, as are all statewide elected officials, and come January, 26 out of 29 House seats will be held by Democrats. We can afford the messiness of an actual legislature.

Did Silver stop bad things from happening under Pataki? Sure he did. But there was never a majority in the Assembly for them in the first place, and if we have so little trust in our people and their representatives that they need the oversight of someone who knows better than they do what's good for them, then we have a systemic problem deeper than I thought.

There's nothing wrong with letting the people decide, even if you occasionally don't like the results. If you don't like what the people want, your job is to change their mind, not to say that a parental authority figure forbids them getting what they want.  


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Total argument indeed (0.00 / 0)
Let me quote you... "Do we have so little trust in our people and their representatives that they need oversight?" and "There's nothing wrong with letting the people decide, even if you occasionally don't like the results."

Isn't term limits because we have so little trust in the electorate to vote the incumbent status quo out? If you advocate for term limits then you don't trust do you? How about property tax cap? Isn't it because we don't trust you'll get it right and vote that bloated budget down? Can't have it both ways.


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We need term limits because (0.00 / 0)
of gerrymandering, constituent mailers, and pork- all of these thigns give incumbents unfair advantages and undermine a level playing field for the democratic process.

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The best defense you could ever hope to have (0.00 / 0)
Silver is a genius at political defense, and we were lucky to have him there when we needed that-- and I sure remember that we needed it.  However, as per Bouldin, we got no business leaving the strategy defense-heavy today, which is a markedly different time.  Give that ball to some offense-runners.

BTW-- poll above is really, really non-poor-male-oriented.  I was sure 'nuf alive in '86, as were my kids, but I wasn't kicking back in a sports bar.  I was organizing day care centers, running them locally and lobbying for adequate state funding for low-income families' day care subsidies at the state level, so that children could have decent care while their mothers went out to work to support them..... while some of their dads skipped their child support payments.... because they were too busy hanging out in sports bars? Who knows. The sports guys sure did get more notoriety and attention-- then and now-- than those of us who accomplished social change in allowing for women to compete as equals in the workforce without causing collateral damage to the next generation (which would have resulted in a backlash driving women back to involutary housewife status).


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I was only 6 in 1986 and wasn't really doing any of those things (0.00 / 0)
I just went to wikipedia's 1986 page and selected only the couple of things I could vaguely remember- all that stuff you list is definitely moore worthy than the poll options, but it's not single events that many people have a common memory of.

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True (0.00 / 0)
There are those Ronnie Reagan events... but I have repressed them all-- too painful!

[ Parent ]
Exactly lol (0.00 / 0)
I guess I could have thrown in "star Wars' for good measure

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