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The Palin Pick: Her Female Idols In Politics And Why She Was Chosen

by: robert.harding

Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 13:47:28 PM EDT


(Cross posted at Daily Kos)

If you're a Republican woman, who is your idol in politics?

Apparently for Republican vice presidential pick Sarah Palin, she has two: Geraldine Ferraro, who was a 1984 vice presidential candidate, and Sen. Hillary Clinton.

Both, of course, are Democrats. Palin is a Republican.

There was mild applause when Palin mentioned Ferraro and reluctant applause for Clinton. John McCain gave a smirk at the mention of Hillary and gave a brief clap for the mention.

I also noticed while McCain was introducing Palin that there was a woman over McCain's left shoulder on television who was like a little girl at Christmas when it was said that the vice presidential pick was a woman. She was practically in shock and if you watch video of that moment again (at this time, nothing is available) you will see what I'm talking about.

In reviewing the women in Congress, I counted 67 women who are Democrats serving in either house of Congress (56 in the House, 11 in the Senate). Republicans only have 26 women in either house, with 21 of those serving in the House and five in the Senate. So this isn't like the Republicans are the best at getting women into higher office.

(NOTE: Included in that count is Stephanie Tubbs-Jones, who passed away recently. She was still included on the list, so I counted her among the Democratic women in Congress.)

(It is also worth noting that from my home state of New York, there are eight women in Congress - seven in the House and one in the Senate.)

Sarah Palin is an interesting choice as I discussed on my blog, The Albany Project, today. She has very little experience. Two years as governor of Alaska and serving from 1992 to 1996 as a city councilmember for Wasilla, Alaska. She became mayor of Wasilla in 1996.

Wasilla is a small town in Alaska. As of 2000, there were 5,470 people. A 2005 estimate suggests that the population has grown to 8,471. It's not a very big place, but Palin was in charge of it at one time. In fact, that is where most of her political experience is derived.

The reason I bring this up is that I believe this pick does a disservice to women and the cause to get more women into politics. In talking with women here in New York where getting more women elected to state government is an ongoing fight, they want to see the most progressive and most qualified women elected to office. The McCain pick of Palin doesn't give Republican women the most qualified woman (I think Carly Fiorina would have made a better VP choice for McCain, given his weakness on economic issues) on the Republican side nor does it give women in general something to be proud of. She's very inexperienced and unqualified for this post.

Palin invoking Hillary and Ferraro today was an indirect shot at the GOP and herself. The Republicans are not a very diverse group. If you want a Republican, just go around and ask any white male what their party affiliation is. This might explain the reaction of that woman I described above standing behind McCain and expressing shock that McCain had picked a woman. The 26 women on the Republican side also show this lack of diversity when their counterparts on the Democratic side have two-and-a-half times as many women in Congress than they do.

So why is Palin mentioning Hillary and Ferraro a shot at herself? The same women who supported Hillary and Ferraro would never dream of supporting a McCain-Palin ticket. Palin is a pro-lifer, pro-gun, a believer in Creationism and is against gay marriage. She also is in favor of the death penalty. In other words, Palin appeals to that same conservative Republican base that sums up the Republican base best: White males. She is not going to have any sort of appeal to women on the Democratic side of the aisle or give McCain a chance at stealing Hillary supporters away from Barack Obama. At least, not with those five issues in mind.

I believe Palin's pick was for two reasons:

(1) Age. Today McCain turns 72. What better way to distract the media from your 72nd birthday than by picking your vice president who just happens to be 28 years younger than you are. In thinking about this, I can't think of any other reason why they would pick this day - the slowest news day of the week, a Friday - to announce McCain's VP pick. Palin has probably been in the cards for at least a week or so and I also would think Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty was as well. McCain needed someone younger. He got that with the 44 year old Palin.

(2) Conservative bona fides. Everyone knows McCain has a problem with social conservatives. Picking Palin gives him someone who is the model social conservative. Anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage, as well as pro-death penalty, pro gun and a supporter of Creationism.

In any event, the vice presidential debate between our man Joe Biden and Palin will be a fun one to watch. A guy with experience and foreign policy knowledge in his back pocket against a woman who has ran Alaska for two years and prior to that ran a small village, both as mayor and as a city councilmember.

As the saying goes, the Republicans are bringing a knife to a gunfight.

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Older women voters? (0.00 / 0)
I just read a poll that said McCain leads Obama by 9 percentage points over Obama amongst older women voters.  Palin is younger but I wonder if her pick helps to not only reduce some of his age problems but further reinforces McCain's edge over Obama in this older women demographic?

Maybe, maybe not (0.00 / 0)
Pawlenty is young (turns 48 this year) but had more experience. He has not only been a governor for the last five-plus years, but he also was a state legislator beginning in 1992. He has a much longer record of governing and legislating in Minnesota - a much more important state than Alaska is when it comes to the presidential picture.

In other words, it might reduce some of his age problems but it is counterproductive in terms of experience. Here you have a man with 25 years of serving in Congress now matched with a woman who has two years of being a governor under her belt and her only other experience came running a small town in Alaska. That is quite a disparity there.  


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In my experience (0.00 / 0)
Older, non-Democratic women tend to be pretty conservative about the idea of women having high-stress, high-hours-requiring jobs when they have young children. I think that her mother-of-five situation will lead many older women independents and Republicans-- esp. the religious fundamentalists of the South-- to disaprove of her candidacy. They may like McCain enough to disregard that, but, I don't think she helps motivate this demographic to support the ticket.

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Problems with the Biden-Palin debate will come if the (0.00 / 0)
moderator fails to ask questions on substantive issues.  If the moderator sticks to fluff, then Palin might do well vs. Biden.  Biden does have a sharp wit though, so perhaps he'd still win.  

Yay (0.00 / 0)
Palin is exactly the type of change the Republican party needs. Some of her social views are a bit extreme though.


Change? It is to laugh (0.00 / 0)
   She's gushy sweet for big oil, she's against the right to choose(Sarah Palin opposes rape and incest exceptions ), and she's already a subject in an ethics investigation.  http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes...

  Change?  Sounds like more of the McSame.

  Don't judge other people by your own limitations.


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Even less change (0.00 / 0)
  She's not so sure climate change is real and she thinks polar bears are the mammalian equivalent of pigeons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01...

  Its just my opinion, but the women I've talked to who were pining for Hillary are gonna be insulted and pissed by this selection.  

  Don't judge other people by your own limitations.


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Palin is a mainstream GOPer because of her ethics problems (0.00 / 0)
No wonder Republican elites are gushing over her

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Palin's Pick Is For One Reason Only (0.00 / 0)
The McPoliticians in the McPublican party had only one hope in this election:  that Hillary Clinton supporters either stayed home or crossed party lines.

After the Democratic National Convention, it's quite clear that is no longer going to happen.  

Hey, John McCain...why didn't YOU choose Hillary?  I think the Obama campaign needs to put out a response ad.

Palin invoked Ferraro and Hillary in an effort to appeal to women voters who vote for a woman over man for that reason alone.  This is a stupid way to vote, and it's a stupid way to pick a nominee.  This is gender-division politics at it's absolute worst, another example of why John McCain and the Republicans just don't get it.


No different... (0.00 / 0)
Voting for gender is no different than many who vote for race....

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Yep. (0.00 / 0)
The Republicans have become the victims of their own propaganda again, just like with Iraq.  They want to believe that women only supported Hillary because she is a woman-- that the politics of racial and gender division are major motivators.  It has always been way more complicated than that.  Sure, women and people of color want to see people who look like them in public office.  But, they want that as tangible evidence of opportunity not as some sort of wacky single-issue quota thing.  A candidate being a woman is one reason that somebody might vote for her, as women are underrepresented in Congress and the White House.  It is not the only reason for almost anybody.

Race and gender are disqualifiers for voters who are sexist and racist, though.  Single-issue voters, in terms of race and gender, will be, I think, mostly far right-winger types who will stay home or write in Huckabee.


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Obama (0.00 / 0)
Name the last organization that Obama ran.

Name the last private sector job he had.  By private sector, I exclude non-profits primarily funded by the government.

List his scholarly legal publications as a professor of law.


Biden (0.00 / 0)
What the heck, since Biden claims to be a legal expert, I would ask the same three questions about him.

By that logic.... (0.00 / 0)
...you disqualify anyone who was the head of the Red Cross (Libby Dole) as listing that as a major qualification.  Or was the Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff and Secretary of State (Colin Powell).  Or John McCain, for god's sake.  Do you read what you write?

  And Obama did work for a law firm.  And law professor, even adjunct, is a job.  To claim that only private sector experience as you define it qualifies someone is to try to narrow the question to get the answer you want.  Try Fox News. They use that tactic all the time.

 I think a problem that McCain may not have thought completely through is Palin's own "Troopergate".  It could be that a lot of blue collar guys, especially divorced men who've gone through custody hearings or battles, might not take a great shine to Palin when they hear about the multiple complaints and legal actions that were brought by the Palin family against their former brother-in-law during a messy divorce.  And how does McCain reconcile his 'anti-earmark' fetish with Palin's push to convice  "the state legislature to back $500 million in grants and benefits for a company to get the permit and design process going."  Not to deliver, not to pump, not even to drill.  But a 1/2 billion dollar, tax-funded up-front guarantee for "permit and design process".
http://newsweek.washingtonpost...  

  Don't judge other people by your own limitations.


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Experience (0.00 / 0)
If I disqualified McCain, that's just great since I am a strong opponent of McCain's.

I am just trying to bring some realism and balance to the attack on Palin.

You can't compare her experience as an executive with others' experience as a legislator.  Add the fantasy world of being a legislator to the fantasy world of NEVER having had to make a living and, as far as I'm concerned, none of those three Senate jokers is qualified to be by my mayor or anything higher.

Surely all will agree that in evaluating Palin's qualifications, you must at the same time evaluate the other three and by the same standards.

I find all three of them wanting obviously.

(I find Fox News unwatchable.)



Staggered (0.00 / 0)
  I'm absolutely taken aback that you think there's no value to the experience of having been a legislator.  By your logic, you've devalued public service to the level of on-line video gaming.  A United States Senator isn't qualified to be your mayor?  People who have held the highest of national  security clearances, people who have helped to negotiate international nuclear treaties, people who have advocated and achieved legislation at the highest level of American, perhaps world government, aren't qualified to be your mayor?

 I rarely get personal, but you are a silly, silly person.  

  Don't judge other people by your own limitations.


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Getting personal (0.00 / 0)
I suspect you get personal all the time.  It's a substitute for actual thought.

No,really (0.00 / 0)
  You could look.  Don't suspect.  Go ahead and look.

  It just seems intellectually lazy to try to casually assert that public service is without merit.  Citizen government is the very life's blood of our democracy.  While we would dearly love to have the most qualified of surgeons digging around in our hearts, we foolishly decry a career in public service as without value and advocate for a new crop of amateurs each election cycle.  Some people excel at public service.  Simply painting people as unqualified because the thing they are good at  is governance and/or legislating is trite and, dare I say, silly.

  Don't judge other people by your own limitations.


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Civics class (0.00 / 0)
It's hard to have a discussion since your view of government is right out of a high school civics text and mine is based on 35 years of observation of how the system actually works (badly).

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