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Open government? Nah.

by: simonstl

Sat Sep 06, 2008 at 11:33:12 AM EDT


I know everyone's excited about primaries right now, but it's time to pause for a WTF moment from Governor Paterson's busy veto pen:

Another bill the governor vetoed would have forced agencies to make relevant documents available to the public three days before open meetings, or as soon as practical. In a written explanation, the governor said the bill would "seriously disrupt the work of boards and commissions in the days immediately preceding an important scheduled meeting."

The bill has long been pushed by Robert Freeman, the director of the Committee on Open Government, which is part of the executive branch but operates somewhat independently.

"We've been proposing this legislation for years and years and years, and all of a sudden it was approved by both houses this year," Mr. Freeman said, adding that he was disappointed by the governor's veto.

"Why should it be difficult to have these records available to the public?" he said. "We're talking about documents that are either accessible to the public under the Freedom of Information Law, or which serve as proposals in the nature of resolutions, laws, rules, regulations, policies or amendments."

I mean, everyone loves to show up at a meeting and have to read through fifty pages of documents during the meeting, right? We all have iPhones for instant quick referencing to related material, right?

It's really hard for me to imagine what on earth the governor thinks he's doing here. If there is a faster way to aggravate people who've pushed for reform at the local level, I'm hard-pressed to find it.

I'm with the Governor on our financial position, but between this and the the veto that lets authorities keep their employees silent (same article, bottom), I'm rapidly losing faith in his wisdom about how government should operate.

Maybe it's time for an "Open Government" fusion party?

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Thank You Simon (4.00 / 2)
And where have you been. I miss you here on TAP. You are always thoughtful and someone I consider a tru progressive. I too am pretty stunned by some of the veto's. I was hesitant to say anything (because I have been pointing out for a while how unprogressive our Governor actually is and was accused by some of being anti-Paterson for doing that which I am not).

So I am glad you have brought it up.

I agree the state is in a tough fiscal situation. But progressives don't abandon their core beliefs no matter what. The bill you point out is a good case in point. To veto this really says what you're all about. Or what you are not about. Using money as an excuse is a cop out. This is about core principals.

I am most upset at his veto of the legislation to simplify payment procedures for victims of sexual assault who are at risk for HIV/AIDS and in need of PEP. (That's post exposure prophylaxis for anyone who doesn't know).

Under current procedures, victims are already reimbursed by the Crime Victims Board (CVB) for treatment. So what's the big deal.

What's going on is some victims who are uninsured or maybe young adults still covered by their parents insurance might want to maintain confidentiality. These victims are intimidated by paperwork and out-of-pocket expenses and risk their lives by choosing not to have treatment. This measure would just allow the victims of sexual assault deemed at risk of HIV/AIDS regardless of coverage to be provided with a streamlined payment. So they wouldn't be intimidated.

Treatment runs around $2,500 a person and might add, they estimate, in the 100's per year. So come on Governor we're talking about a few hundered lives here and we're not talking about a lot of money. It's about where your priorities lie and I don't like where they are.


I've mostly been (4.00 / 1)
here, though finishing up this (which was supposed to have been done before the baby was born) has been difficult too.

I've been trying to be supportive of Paterson, recognizing that he came into a weird situation where the budget is melting down and he wasn't expecting to be dealing with it, and on top of everything I just plain like him.

I don't understand where he's headed, though - unless maybe he figures that as long as he annoys every kind of activist it'll be okay.  The specific veto you question isn't one that I knew much about, but huh?  What?  Why would he do that?

I agree that both of these leave me wondering about his priorities.

(And thanks, but I'd be cautious about declaring me a true progressive, if only because I have serious doubts about the meaning of the word 'progress'.  We doubtless disagree about a few other things, too!)


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Well, thanks for this (0.00 / 0)
If not a progressive, how about "very principled individual"?

Congrats on the book-- had figured it was just Sungiva keeping you busy.  Appreciate you stopping by with this news of doom and gloom that I would otherwise have missed.  Paterson has definitely had some WTF moments. I, too, basically really like him... but, this seems way dumb given Cuomo's strong suits, to say nothing of, you know, the fairness, democracy and the American way.


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OMG (0.00 / 0)
Ok, your book I admit is way beyond me. I can not talk to a computer and you clearly can. On top of that you've brought new (and beautiful) life into this world. All major accomplishments. You're right, we don't always agree but you're a great debater and you stay true to your core beliefs which I respect. Robinia described it better "very principled." Here is a link to the bills he vetoed in their entirety (the HIV one I see is under crime victims). Politics 64 mentioned the LIPA veto, here's an article on Paterson bending to their lobbying pressure. So I put that veto in the anti-transparency column as well.  

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It's not even that much (4.00 / 1)
$2500 is highly inflated. The treatment is $1000 and going down. Crime Victims Board last year paid out $85,000 in total on this. They get heavy reimbursement from the Feds, btw. You're probably looking at saving maybe 50-100 lives, and think of the impact that has on stemming the spread of HIV/AIDS.Of course this is literally an ounce of prevention saving the state millions more than it would pay to treat HIV/AIDs patients, most of whom (85 percent)are indigent. So we're paying a hell of a lot more than $1000-$2000 each. More like hundreds of thousands. Sounds like a good investment.  

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Thanks (0.00 / 0)
For the better numbers and the point about it being an ounce of prevention. Points that make the veto even worse in my mind. This one is about lives, and as you point out mostly indigent lives. So you are right: good investment don't know why he would do this.

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and what about Paterson turning away from having LIPA records reviewed (0.00 / 0)
if rate increases proposed by LIPA exceed 2.5%. Makes me think someone told David they have a lot of embarrasing photos of him if he does not start playing ball with the darkside!

Hadn't thought of that-- (0.00 / 0)
but it is a hypothesis that would, unfortunately, explain quite a lot of the WTF? stuff.

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Agree (0.00 / 0)
If they have photos or something like that it answers the question as to why we see a complete 'about face' on the issues. It would also explain the 'about face' politically on helping the Senate Dems. I've wondered why he made a truce with the GOP when previous Governors haven't done that with their opposition. Or why he would offer Bruno a job when he left the Senate. It all adds up to one thing perhaps. If so we will suffer from a progressive policy stand point if a governor is bowing to blackmail.

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Control freaks? (0.00 / 0)
Why is it that our government, comprised of officials we elect, is protecting information instead of the public's rights?  I participated in a newspaper project last year at The Democrat & Chronicle, Project Sunlight, and our paper won praise based on this effort.  I believe Mr. Freeman contributed a column on this project.  I thought things were finally moving forward in this area.  This veto by Paterson is dismaying.

Here is Attorney General Cuomo's Project Sunlight page:

Sunlight


Good point on Project Sunlight (0.00 / 0)
You'd think if Paterson is so concerned about Andrew taking him out in 2010 he'd be more supportive of good government legislation. Then again this is the same Paterson who'd do away with NYC term limits.  

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there have been a lot of WTF moments lately (4.00 / 1)
with Paterson. WTF indeed.  

WTF of the day? (0.00 / 0)
Maybe we should start a WTF of the Day here on TAP...  ;)

I worry that once a day (0.00 / 0)
might not be enough, assuming that it's not just about Paterson.

Some days, hourly seems more appropriate in New York.  

(And if you included the current federal government, we could probably do 10-minute installments...)


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The WTF Minute... (4.00 / 1)
Brought to you by TAP...

LMAO!


[ Parent ]
Indeed-- WTF-- (0.00 / 0)
"It's sorta a NY State of Mind" (apologies to Billy Joel).

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