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ADWATCH: SD-61: Mesi Out With TV Ad; Unveils Five Point Plan For Jobs

by: robert.harding

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 14:13:20 PM EDT


Joe Mesi released two key campaign pieces today when he announced his five point plan for jobs in Western New York and also came out with his first TV ad reaching out to voters in the 61st Senate District.

First, the television ad. Here it is:

Mesi's five point plan for jobs focuses on creating jobs in Western New York as well as keeping jobs in the area. Job creation is one thing. Keeping those jobs here is another. We know that better than anyone.

Here is Mesi's five point plan:

1.  Target investments to build on our strengths. The science advances at UB and the bioinformatics and cancer research taking place at Roswell Park should help attract the kind of high-tech jobs that will keep our kids here-and give them a real future. In the Senate, Joe Mesi will fight to increase funding for our universities.

2.  Reform Empire Zones and Industrial Development Agencies. These programs provide breaks to businesses who promise to create jobs. But too often, we end up subsidizing businesses that are cutting jobs, not creating them. That's got to change. We have to hold them accountable and make sure they keep their promises, so our kids can stay here and find good jobs.

3.  Lower Property Taxes because high tax rates put us at a competitive disadvantage and discourage businesses from locating here.

4.  End Tax Breaks for Corporations that Move Our Jobs Out of State. In just the past year, the Republican-led Senate defeated an anti-outsourcing bill. There's no excuse for Albany helping CEOs outsource our jobs-with our tax dollars, leaving New York families holding the bill. It should be the Senate's job to protect our jobs.

5.  Grow Green Industries.  Western New York should be a model in growing "green industries."  Mesi's plan will cut energy costs, create jobs in growing economic sectors, and curbing global warming by investing in renewable energy and training the next generation of workers.

Mesi knows where our focus has to be. This should be the focus of other legislators in Western New York. We have the resources to have green energy industries flourish here. We also have strong colleges and universities that should be utilized. We do have plenty of land for Empire Zones, which is why Empire Zones need to be reined in. We need companies who utilize Empire Zones for tax breaks to be held accountable to make sure they are creating the jobs they said they would.

This is great stuff from Mesi's campaign.  

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Good Ad (0.00 / 0)
Positive, warm, and thankfully, he comes across as intelligent.

This kind of ad will counter the blather that Ranzehofer has on the air - question is whether Mesi can afford to keep this up long enough to make a difference.


Ranzenhofer... (0.00 / 0)
I have seen that ad many times, mostly because he has it running on cable TV and it runs during every commercial break (approximately) in the evening. I find it to be very bland.

One of the points he mentions is unfunded mandates. The only people who care about unfunded mandates are the people who are directly impacted by them. These usually are government employees, legislators and even school teachers and administrators. But your average taxpayer could care less what an unfunded mandate is.


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Anyone who remembers 1994 (0.00 / 0)
hates unfunded mandates, whether they understand them or not.

Newt.

Why'd they cut the top and bottom of his head off? Its awkward.

As much as I think Mesi is a tool, an idiot, and unqualified to be a golf caddy much less a state senator, that is my only complaint with this ad.

I think that my finger will end up burning when I touch that Mesi lever in 33 days.


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Let's be real... (0.00 / 0)
The average voter doesn't know about unfunded mandates. Your reference to 1994 assumes that everyone who remembers 1994 is a political guru or at least informed about what happened in 1994.

Are unfunded mandates an issue? Yes, but only for those that really care. If you approached voters and asked them what is more important to them, unfunded mandates or property taxes, I know what the answer would be.

Plus, in covering local and state politics, I have learned that some incumbents use unfunded mandates as an excuse for their fiscal recklessness. Unfunded mandates are a problem, but making them seem as if they are the sole reason why a county is spending so much money is a bit misleading. Unfunded are a problem, but not the only problem.  


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Actually, if you ask the people who run counties . . . (0.00 / 0)
They will tell you that unfunded mandates, as well as the wacky state education funding formula are the two biggest headaches they have when drafting local budgets.

The two largest cost centers for counties outside New York City are state-mandated services like healthcare and education.  Separate from those, there are literally dozens of state-mandated regulations that counties have to meet in terms of procurement, contracting and services that really ratchet up the tax bill.

Voters may not know what an "unfunded mandate" is; but when you tell voters their property taxes are high because of unfunded mandates, they don't care about the details.  Amherst Guy's invocation of 1994 is correct because most of those voters didn't get it either, but they knew they were voting for a tax cut when they voted for the Contract with America.  And today, in 2008, voters will vote for the candidate that tells them "I will cut your taxes," whether by reducing mandates, or other targeted cuts in government spending.


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All you had to do (0.00 / 0)
to hear how horrible unfunded mandates were in 1994 was turn on the TV. The entire Republican agenda was yelling about how awful and expensive they were. Democrats had no comeback. Did people know what they are afterwards? maybe. Did they hate them? Definitely.

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The cutting off of the top and bottom of the head (0.00 / 0)
Is very Spitzer-esque.  I believe his ad guys made this spot.  Similar scoring, use of "real people," etc.

Effective.


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I disagree (0.00 / 0)
It looks like it was put together by someone trying to rip off those ads, and in such a way that political people will all be like, wow, that is a great ad. For the average person? I'm not so sure. What it really reminds me of is those Bush ads from 92 where his face was half cut off at the top and bottom and he rambled on about nothing at all. The ad doesn't really say much and it lacks a good cohesive message.

A side note about work ethic, I think if people saw how and where Mesi spends his nights (Gabel's on Hertel) they wouldn't think he had much of a work ethic. He was lucky to have Golisano to bail him out, because he spent of his time during the primary in bars.


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Why this will connect.... (0.00 / 0)
1.  Mesi is universally known throughout the district for his very successful boxing career, its how people know him....and its taking what the Republicans will make try to make his weakness into a major bonus, using the boxing name rec and tying it in with Joe's perceived strengths, stamina and passion.

2.  It generally implies that Ranzenhofer, without mentioning his name or even using his likeness, is generally lazy and hasn't done a whole lot (which is very true).

3.  As I said above, people know Joe as a boxer and a fighter, its what they like about him.  He's WNY's favorite son.  This ad hammers that fact home.

Good ad, uplifting, well put together and he comes across as a successful and intelligent person who cares about this area.


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Mesi is lucky to be where he is (0.00 / 0)
Mesi has severe flaws as a candidate, and only made it out of the primary because Golisano helped him massively outspend his opponents. He lacks credibility, and is hoping to win the race on pure fluff, not substance. He is going to get outspent and he is going to have to face real negatives. Its been building, Ranzenhofer has been running an aggressive race and Mesi has been responding. The Republicans are in the fight of their life and Mesi's campaign is being run by the inept Working Families Party. They just aren't aggressive enough and Ranzenhofer is going to control the race and define the terms its fought on.

Besides with all you mentioned about Mesi, he was only leading a much less known Ranzenhofer by 2 points, and even that was questionable.


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Listen... (0.00 / 0)
I'm really sick of you coming here to belittle a Democratic candidate. If you don't like him, fine. Go whine about it in your own little shell. I have talked to Joe Mesi on multiple occasions and when you get over the fact he's a boxer with high name recognition, he has taken the time to get to know the issues. He has improved a lot since I first talked to him almost six months ago.

The "inept Working Families Party" only won every race (including Mesi's) on Primary Day that was a focus of theirs. They helped Parker win in SD-21 and Dan Squadron in SD-25. They assisted Silver in his primary. And they helped Mesi to win 53 percent of the vote.

I like both Michele Iannello and Dan Ward. But the "inept" Working Families Party is what won it for Mesi. I don't know how anyone can argue with 53 percent of the vote.

Again, there is no need for sour grapes. If you really want Mike Ranzenhofer to win, I'm sure he wants your help. But your repeated ignorance here doesn't really help your case against Mesi. It makes you look like a whiner. Actually, you are a whiner.  


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$250,000 from Golisano (0.00 / 0)
Won it for Mesi. period. You can't tell me that a guy who won by less than 3,000 votes would have won it without that $250k of illegal spending. The WFP was an afterthought, they are incompetent and get credit for hanging on to races that would have been won otherwise. As I have said before, Mesi performed significantly worse in areas where the WFP was using paid canvassers than where they didn't. You never bring up the WFP's paid canvassers in Jim Keane's campaign though.

At the end of the day, I will continue to complain about Joe Mesi. Simply put Joe Mesi is an unemployed boxer who wants to get a job on my dime because he can't get one any other way. He punched out a guy the night he announced his campaign, he has a well known coke problem, he has a history of making racists statements, he used his charity to pay his father, he has very very questionable associates, his biggest supporter is Lynn Marinelli who stabbed Democrats in the back and created a legislative majority with Republicans, he has donated money to Republican candidates including the union hater Chris Collins, he has no knowledge of basic issues, he will say anything to get elected, he has collected $6,000 in illegal corporate contributions, he sent out a letter to Democrats lying about being a lifelong Democrat, he cheated to win with $250,000 in illegal contributions from Tom Golisano, he met with Joe Bruno about running as the Republican candidate, he has considered running for County Leg and State Assembly as a Republican candidate, the list goes on for hours.

Where should I put my principles as a Democrat? Is it really worth getting the majority by electing a POS? In the end, if Ranzenhofer wins, two years from now we can replace him with a real, trustworthy Democrat with integrity, if Mesi wins, we are stuck with him for the next 20 years and Steve Pigeon too.


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Your rationale falls flat... (0.00 / 0)
Golisano is investing in a lot of candidates. Should we not support them either? Golisano is going to spend money on Rick Dollinger. Does that mean we should dismiss Dollinger as just another Golisano candidate? I don't think so.

As for Jim Keane, Jim Keane was Jim Keane. He was a poor choice and I think everyone in hindsight agrees on that. He was not a strong option as a county executive. People in Erie County wanted something new. Keane was part of the same established group. Chris Collins was new. Collins won with 63 percent of the vote. That's not the WFP's fault. You need a strong candidate first. Jim Keane didn't fit that description.

Let's face it, Joe Mesi is set for life. He doesn't need politics. He could get into promoting or continue his boxing career. But he chose this time to run. I don't think we should shoot him for that. He doesn't need a job.

If you are going to talk about who Mesi has given to, you might want to discuss the Democrats he has given to. Mesi gave to Jim Keane, has given to Assemblyman Gabryszak and also cut a check for Kathy Hochul, according to those records. If you're going to make a case against Mesi because he has given to Republicans, you might want to mention that he has given to Democrats too. It would make your case stronger including all the facts instead of the ones that are convenient for your argument.

And if you think that you will have a better shot at Ranzenhofer in two years, guess again. Sure, a one-term state senator doesn't have too much of an incumbent advantage, but it's still an incumbent advantage. This is a district with a modest Republican enrollment advantage. Running as a challenger against an incumbent Republican will not be easy. Winning this seat now is a must.  


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Golisano (0.00 / 0)
is free to invest in candidates legally, but no one with a brain can claim that the campaigns of Joe Mesi and Barbra Kavanaugh did not illegally coordinate with Responsible New York. If he wants to do it because he supports candidates for real reform that's fine, if he does it to settle Steve Pigeon's grudges that's not okay.

My point about Jim Keane was that the WFP had no effect, like it always does. Correlation does not prove causation. The WFP field program sucks, paid canvassers don't work. Their strategies are passive and outdated.

Wow, so I should congratulate a Democratic candidate for donating to Democrats? I want to know why a Democratic candidate was donating to Republicans just months before he entered a Democratic primary, that concerns me.

Two years from now there will be a Democratic Majority in the Senate and no Republican enrollment advantage. The Dems will be able to properly fund the campaign, which they can't this year, and there will be no SRCC for Ranzenhofer to rely on. I'm voting for Ranzenhofer, so two years from now MY Senator can be a Democrat I am proud to have representing me. (Key point here, the 61st is my home district, not yours)


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BH... (0.00 / 0)
Again, Golisano hasn't given to Mesi solely. I agree with you that there is a lot to not like about Golisano's dealings but that alone should not be a reason to burn Mesi at the stake. Golisano has endorsed (and will presumably give) to one of my favorite candidates of this cycle Paloma Capanna.

You can have your view of the WFP, but Keane is a bad example. Keane lost because he was Keane, not because of failures by the WFP. Everyone knows who backed Keane. Keane lost because he was a product of that establishment. It was old versus new and the new guy won. Unfortunately for us, that meant a Republican winning in a blue county.

And I didn't say you should congratulate Mesi. I told you to use all the facts, not just the ones that were convenient for you. You made him out to be some sort of Republican superdonor when he has, in fact, given to Democrats.

Hey, Kryzan has given to both Reynolds and Pataki in the past. Those, somehow, ended up being non-issues. I never understood why (especially when she was playing the lifelong Democrat card) but that's how it was. Mesi is a famous figure in Buffalo. I'm sure you had politicians that were drooling over him and he gave to all of them. He admitted to me that he has been courted to run for office by all sides over the last eight years or so. So that tells me he stepped back and said he saw himself in line with the Democratic Party and went for it.

The New York State Senate represents all of us. What if it came down to SD-61 to decide the majority in the Senate? Would you want Ranzenhofer then? I also find it hypocritical that you are complaining about Mesi's giving to Republicans and then you say you are voting for a Republican.

And no, SD-61 isn't my district. But I have plenty of friends in the district who have taken a hard look at Mesi and ultimately decided that not only will they vote for him, but they are working for him. One just told me tonight that they went out to canvass for him.

You are entitled to your opinion. That is the beauty of America. But when it comes to parties, I think your whole argument here has been rendered obsolete because you admitted that you are supporting Ranzenhofer. Is Ranzenhofer more of a Democrat than Mesi is? Is he more progressive? If so, I'd love to see the proof.


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Every dart thrown by BH (0.00 / 0)
was true.

It makes me sick to death.  


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Afterthought? (0.00 / 0)
Do you live in the district man?

Have you seen how the WFP organizes, pulls together canvasses, phone banks and rallies local supporters?  Have you seen their discipline and their work ethic when it comes to running efficient and solid campaigns.....Robert mentioned their successes above, and Mesi is no exception.  No matter how much ad money you can throw into a race, as Jack Davis proved, it won't mean a victory.

Mesi won on the ground during the primary, its how he'll win on election day.  The "inept" WFP has proved their worth in salt once this year during their near clean-sweep for their endorsed candidates during the primaries and will do so again.


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For the Record (0.00 / 0)
I don't work for them either.

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I think you're seeing what you want to see (0.00 / 0)
rather than what is.

Lead Dog, is Spitzer-esque still a good thing?


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