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Siena NY Poll: Obama 58 - McCain 36

by: phillip anderson

Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 11:06:08 AM EDT


Two weeks ago the Siena Research Institute released a poll that showed a mere 5 point lead for Obama in New York. This led many otherwise smart folks to run around with their hair on fire thinking that John McCain actually had a shot at winning the Empire State. There were emergency meetings. There were fevered emails and phone calls. Some people just freaked out. I said at the time that everyone should just take a deep breath. The chances that Obama would win New York by less than a dozen points were roughly equal to him winning Utah by he same margin.

If the poll, an obvious outlier, had any value, it was that it would once again give the NY GOP a glimmer of false hope. It would encourage them to publicly state again that they believed that John McCain and Sarah the Wonder Dolt were going to save their Senate majority. (this time last year it was Rudy on their white horse) Give them some hope and let them game plan around a McCain surge, I said.

Well, this morning comes news that the new Siena Poll shows 22 point lead for Barack Obama. It also shows that Sarah Palin's numbers have dropped like a stone, a phenomena seen in polling across the country in the last few weeks.

What this means for Skelos and Mondello is that the calvary ain't coming. The top of the GOP ticket isn't going to save them or their endangered incumbents.

Joe Robach, I'm looking at you.

phillip anderson :: Siena NY Poll: Obama 58 - McCain 36
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It's also possible that the 22-point lead is an outlier as well, although far less likely (Gore won by 25 points in 2000).

It points out another worrisome problem -- how accurate are the Siena polls?  They recently polled several state Senate races; how reliable are those results?  I'm not saying Dean Skelos was right, and the Republicans are doing quite well, but a 17-point swing in two weeks, even with the intervening news, is a bit much to swallow.

If I had access to internal polls from the DSCC and SRCC (I don't), I'd be inclined to believe them more readily than I believe the Siena polls at this point.


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Will be huge in SD-56.  Without it, Robach's tough to beat.  With it, this one's a horse race.  

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