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NY-26: Powers Move Out-Of-State Confirmed; WFP Line Open For Kryzan

by: robert.harding

Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 18:01:58 PM EDT


Jill Terreri of the Democrat and Chronicle is reporting today that Jon Powers has notified the New York State Board of Elections of his move out of New York, which allows Alice Kryzan the chance to have a second line on November's ballot.

I had the chance to speak to Powers today. He is doing well and confirmed to me that he has moved out of state. He did say that he would be sending out an e-mail in the next day or two to talk a little more about what his future plans hold, so I will let him break the news in the coming days.

What I can say is that Jon is doing well. He is going to be doing something that keeps him involved with two things he knows plenty about: Politics and veterans' issues.

That said, I find it very intriguing that he is still drawing media attention and there have been numerous calls for him to endorse Kryzan in order to save his political career. There have been jabs leveled at Powers over the last month for his silence and for disappearing.

While I like Jon and I'm a friend of Jon's, I don't see how this attention does us any good in the 26th congressional district. We are supposed to be talking about Alice Kryzan. She was the victor on Primary Night and she is the Democratic candidate now.

Many people, including some friends of mine in the blogosphere, have called for Jon to endorse Alice. Why? So we can some sort of Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton-like moment? I don't think we need that. Powers proved that endorsements don't matter much. The only endorsements that matter are on Election Day. I would rather see Kryzan and the Democrats in NY-26 working on getting those endorsements (votes) rather than waiting to see what Powers is going to do.

One last note: It is easy for people who have never campaigned and ran for office to say he should just come out and endorse Kryzan. I had a friend who ran for a local office (his campaign lasted four months) and he was shocked and drained at the end when he lost. Whenever we would talk, that's all he would talk about. He did this for over a month.

Powers ran a campaign for 15 months. He said at one point that it was his "full-time job." He poured his heart and soul into it. Was he tired at the end? You bet. Was he drained? Definitely. Did he need a break? No doubt about it.

We need to realize that the longer our campaign seasons are, the longer we need to recover from them. Tony Blair was on "The Daily Show" recently and made a couple of jokes about how long our campaigns are. When you put all that energy into it, you're not going to just wake up on September 10 or November 5 and be ready to move on and endorse someone. It takes time.  

robert.harding :: NY-26: Powers Move Out-Of-State Confirmed; WFP Line Open For Kryzan
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go alice take the wfp support but not their line (0.00 / 0)
Does anyone care to guess how much this will cost the tax payers in the 26district, the ballots have been printed and i can only speak for orleans, but the service men ballots have been package and stamped so one would only think other county are as well, so to reprint ballots after the BOE rules would make it labor intensive and costly to be done on time remember every abssentee ballot i 1 ballot 2 envelops and just think of the night mare of multiple election across the seven countys

my guess

        4 rual countys   $2500
        3 lg   countys   $10000
                         -------
                          40,000

any one eles care to guess


Cost of GOP control of federal government (0.00 / 0)
Well up in the $TRILLIONS.

Consider the Bush deficits to the Clinton surplus: Multi Trillions.
The Bush tax cuts for millionaires and corporations deprived the rest of us  in unfunded public services, over $One Trillion.
Eventual cost of the invasion and occupation of Iraq, according to Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz,
$3 Trillion.
Financial meltdown resulting from  Gramm-Leach-Bliley deregulation, reportedly over $2 Trillion already.

Each trillion dollars comes to over $8,000.00 PER HOUSEHOLD!

Energy policy beholden to big oil: climate disruption, loss of agricultural production, coastal cities, species and ecosystems, spread of disease, priceless.


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thousands to trillions (0.00 / 0)
you make 40,000 sound like change in your pocket, so the question is. is 40,000 worth it?

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Do the math - $40K/CD is about 50 cents per household (0.00 / 0)
By the way, the WFP line accounted for more than the margin of victory in several closely contested races in recent  years, including at least one House seat pickup.

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Elections as a whole cost taxpayer dollars... (0.00 / 0)
Does that mean we should eliminate them in the name of saving tax dollars?

I don't think so. Democracy should not come with a price tag. In the large scheme of things, $40,000 is pocket change. For the large counties, $10,000 is nothing. For the small counties, $2,500 is, well, nothing.


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if my guess is right (0.00 / 0)
it could be more or less money, then the ballots that got sent to service men are out thats another mess what happens when the old ballotts return are they counted or set aside, the money is one thing but the after math could be trickey does any one have a better ideal but has the BOE made there ruling yet as of 3:30 the wfp had no info other than the board of decision makers 3 dems to 2 rep            

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HA! (0.00 / 0)
you're assuming the BOE will actually print new absentee ballots and new ballot strips.

I laugh.

The old absentee ballots will almost certainly go out with a sticker over his name, and the ones that have already gone out (probably only overseas and military if any) will just not have WFP votes counted; sorry, you're SOL if you vote for him.

Same with ballot strips - stickers; thats what they did for the GOP presidential primary to get rid of Giuliani.


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this show how little you know (0.00 / 0)
what about the envelops that have to be reopened and trashed, with postage on then, and the labor to readdress then and cost of printing stickers and the labor to put then on,  and not having votes counted no wonder you wont us your name !!!!!!!!!!!!

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you're right (0.00 / 0)
I won't you my name.

whatever the heck that means.

If you know me you know that this is me. So it's irrelevant.

Suffice it to say that I know for a fact that the Erie BOE sends out absentee ballots 3 weeks before election day; i.e. not yet.


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Powers Endorsement (0.00 / 0)
is not completely meaningless at this time, but it is damn close with him off the WFP line

In addition, with Powers moving out of state, that's a de facto endorsement of at least the Democratic line.


Are you saying that Powers has ZERO credibility in the district? (0.00 / 0)
Two NYS House races in 2006 were decided by a 1 point swing
(Hall's 51-49 win and Maffei's 49-51 loss).

Do fewer than 2% of the voters in the district listen to Jon Powers as a credible individual rather than voting strictly by party?

If so, I was misled into contributing and fundraising for Jon in the Primary.


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I don't think that just an endorsement does much good, frankly. (0.00 / 0)
If he were campaigning for her, it would be a different matter, but he can't credibly do that and still be living outside the state. And I don't think that the grassroots people (including me) are going to wait for the official word to be supporting Alice, even those of us (including me) who were loudly and emphatically for Jon in the primaries.  

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It's not a matter of Credibility (0.00 / 0)
It's a matter of Relevance.

do you think 2% of voters are hanging on Jon's endorsement before voting for Kryzan?

283079 voters voted for Congress in 2004; 8500 people voted for Powers in the primary.

Therefore we can extrapolate that only 3% of voters care what Jon Powers has to say.

Of that 3%, yes, I believe that at least a third, and more likely around 80% (see: Adema, Robert Harding, my father, etc.), are supporting Kryzan already. The remaining 0.6% is why I said its not completely meaningless, although I bet some of them will refuse to vote for Kryzan no matter what, so that knocks that down further.

The most important thing was getting him off the ballot. Thanks Jon.


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About time (0.00 / 0)
Now, if only Alice would have coverage in the Democrat and Chronicle on things that voters might care about, she would have a fighting chance.

There have been four articles about Alice since the primary - the DCCC endorsement, Reynolds' memo criticizing her, and now two articles about Powers getting out.

A similar pattern in the Buffalo News.

Lee wins by letting this be a generic race in a GOP district.  Kryzan doesn't have a lot of time left to pick a fight - and that doesn't mean she has to go negative.


She just needs a defining issue (0.00 / 0)
SOMETHING to give her some contrast.

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Issues to run on? (0.00 / 0)
I'm not in the district, but just off the top of my head...I know she is running on  energy/climate/green jobs, as well as health care, the economy, the Iraq war, and public financing of campaigns for public office.

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Re: Endorsement (0.00 / 0)
Since Jon has moved and he is now off the ballot, there may be a legal reason for him not to endorse Krysan.

We've got some work ahead of us.

Ahem, here's what I wrote Sept 24 (0.00 / 0)

The least Powers could do is endorse Kryzan and campaign for her.  Even better would be to get him off the WFP line.  It would be a good use of resources for the DCCC to buy his house (with a view to reselling it in December) and giving Powers a 2 or 3 month job based in Washington campaigning for Dem candidates in close House races.

Link: http://thealbanyproject.com/sh...

Today I received an email from Jon Powers saying

We have decided to take a job opportunity in Washington, DC that will allow us to make an impact on a national level.

I will be working with the Eleison Group to develop Veteran Advisory Councils for Congressional campaigns across the country. This will allow me to help candidates not only understand the issues around the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but put together policies to ensure we are taking care of those who served us. The Veteran Advisory Council provides me an opportunity to engage veterans in Western New York and across the nation to make sure they are working with their local campaigns to provide the critical first hand knowledge that someone who has been in combat brings to the conversation.ded to stop our campaign and I am no longer running for Congress.
...

We have decided to stop our campaign and I am no longer running for Congress.  This campaign was never about an individual, it was about this community....

Perfect!  Jon knows how to be a good soldier in a good cause.

Thanks Jon, thanks Dems, thanks WFP, thanks Albany Project, thanks http://www.ActBlue.com

We need a supermajority to break through the gridlock - GO TEAM!
 


Well, not quite perfect... (0.00 / 0)
I skimmed Robert's original diary, didn't realize that Powers has not yet explicitly given his endorsement to Kryzan, though it is implicit in his action, and in his letter.

I do agree with Robert that Alice should make an effort to reach out to Jon and his supporters.  For example, she can make clear that she would welcome his advice on military and veterans issues.


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