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Krugman on what to do

by: Exile on Ericsson St.

Sun Nov 30, 2008 at 00:32:37 AM EST


Paul Krugman has a good piece in the New York Review of Books on what he thinks the Obama administration should do about the economic crisis.  First, he suggests a stimulus package focusing on infrastructure and aid to states:

Now, the United States tried a fiscal stimulus in early 2008; both the Bush administration and congressional Democrats touted it as a plan to "jump-start" the economy. The actual results were, however, disappointing, for two reasons. First, the stimulus was too small, accounting for only about 1 percent of GDP. The next one should be much bigger, say, as much as 4 percent of GDP. Second, most of the money in the first package took the form of tax rebates, many of which were saved rather than spent. The next plan should focus on sustaining and expanding government spending-sustaining it by providing aid to state and local governments, expanding it with spending on roads, bridges, and other forms of infrastructure.

Four percent of GDP is about 520 billion dollars.

Krugman also recommends recapitalization of banks via the purchase of equity (as opposed to the purchase of troubled assets):

My guess is that the recapitalization will eventually have to get bigger and broader, and that there will eventually have to be more assertion of government control-in effect, it will come closer to a full temporary nationalization of a significant part of the financial system. Just to be clear, this isn't a long-term goal, a matter of seizing the economy's commanding heights: finance should be reprivatized as soon as it's safe to do so, just as Sweden put banking back in the private sector after its big bailout in the early Nineties. But for now the important thing is to loosen up credit by any means at hand, without getting tied up in ideological knots. Nothing could be worse than failing to do what's necessary out of fear that acting to save the financial system is somehow "socialist."
Exile on Ericsson St. :: Krugman on what to do
This sums is up pretty well:

As readers may have gathered, I believe not only that we're living in a new era of depression economics, but also that John Maynard Keynes-the economist who made sense of the Great Depression-is now more relevant than ever. Keynes concluded his masterwork, The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money, with a famous disquisition on the importance of economic ideas: "Soon or late, it is ideas, not vested interests, which are dangerous for good or evil."

The great danger here is that economic know nothings -- supply-siders, Washington Post editorial writers, and so on -- inject red herrings and ignorance into what is developing into a broad consensus about this economic crisis (namely, that it is dire and that averting catastrophe needs to take precedence over things like federal budget deficits and so-called moral hazards).

It's also worth noting that the federal situation may be quite different than the state one: a compelling case can be made (as Robert has in some recent posts), that the state faces true structural issues -- in particular, the possibility of huge medium-to-long term losses in tax revenue from the New York-based finance industry -- that may require some degree of budget cuts.  On the other hand, severe cuts in things like SUNY could have disastrous effects; here one might help that federal aid makes it possible to avoid drastic NYS measures.

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If you believe Krugman (0.00 / 0)
You deserve everything you get. Paul Krugman is a tool, with his policy solutions. I race motorcycles, and I would say that our economy missed its brake marker and hit the retaining wall! Our current, and future administrations (especially), in my opinion, are setting us up for multi-generational failures. The assumption that government intervention will save the day is naive at best. I mean take a  dose of reality, its been since about Aug 2007 since Bear Sterns drama started this snowball, and since then, NONE of the government intervention in the economy has helped you and me. (If you are a huge banking conglomerate, then you were likely able to pick up other huge conglomerates for pennies on the dollar)

More credit, and more credit, creating more credit is imaginary. Because there is no commodity to back up this credit currency. So WE must revolt against the idea of needing more credit, and allow the market to fix the prices of goods. How do you do this.. its really really really simple...SAVE YOUR MONEY, the MONEY THAT YOU EARN. Find a local bank that has showed good judgment in their lending practices, like NBT (with the exception of the loan to Rochester and their soccer team), grandma, or your mattress, and KEEP YOUR MONEY. At least our savings can validate some of the excessive lending. (commodity being your labor..hrm thats heavy)

The government needs to help our central bank to STOP their inflationary practices, because it is only prolonging and worsening the amount of correction needed. No more bailouts, no more loans. If banks need to be re-capitalized, then its painfully obvious that they made bad business decisions and deserve to face their failure.

Finally, the government needs to stop its spending. Locally, stately and federally.To echo several letters that I have sent, and statements Ive given to my local leaders..we deserve the very best services that we can afford, no more and no less.

Mises called the great depression before it happened. The Keynes and Ricardo bandwagon simply indoctrinated a new era of flawed banking policy, for the bankers by the bankers, that is exactly and precisely created what we are experiencing today. Keynes is Dead.


no more loans? (0.00 / 0)
Do you mean no more loans for anyone or just no more loans for failed banks?  

And what do you mean by Kenyes is dead?

Thanks.  


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Good question (0.00 / 0)
Loans should not be given to any company that has an outdated business model, or needs capitalization to continue to practice their bad business model. Failed banks, Insurance companies, auto makers, etc. Loans, should only be available on an extremely limited basis.

Keynes is dead, buried, in the ground.


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Big in Japan (0.00 / 0)
chenangofreethinker's plan sounds just like what Japan did during the 90s.

If everyone (individuals, businesses, and government) is hoarding capital, the recession would be prolonged and deepened by the lack of investment.


I agree with you (0.00 / 0)
And I like the title of your comment.  

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Put down (0.00 / 0)
the Krugman Kool Aid! The Japanese were fine until the jackass bakers started the speculative growth...Sound familiar. Yeah, so if our current economic crisis reflects the same retardedness of the Japanese economy from 89-2001 - then yeah, this is going to hurt for a while.

Government intervention only prolongs the inevitable, and Japans economic crisis of the 90s proves it. Lets not forget the role that Rubins policies played also.


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