Point, Laugh

Dear State Senate Republicans, (0.00 / 0)

Please continue your temper tantrum. It's most entertaining.

Of course, you could always resign.  

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by: Adama @ Tue Feb 03, 2009 at 22:35:04 PM UTC

Dear Democrats (4.00 / 2)

While I know it's hard to have much sympathy for the Republicans, wasn't part of the point of this very site that "behind that door are three men in a room..." and that it was a bad thing?

Has that changed now that all three are Democrats?

I really hope not, and I can't say I've seen much sign lately that we're on the way to transparent and open New York State government.

It's kind of like they've lost, but we haven't won.

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by: simonstl @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 03:14:03 AM UTC

agreed 100% (4.00 / 1)

like i said, i very much sympathize with the arguments they are so feebly trying to make -- i do -- and i, too, am less than happy with the pace of re-democratizing our state senate. that said, i find the sad spectacle of these losers decrying the very tactics they perpetuated for the better part of a century weeks after the tables turned, and doing so in such a sad and yet indignant manner, absolutely high-fucking-larious.

and beyond pathetic.

yes, let's raise hell about the lack of real reform as of yet, but it's, perhaps, cathartic in some respects, to point the fingers and laugh from deep in the belly at these self righteous dipshits today.

that really was the point of the post.

TODAY is day one. It always is.

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by: phillip anderson @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 03:31:16 AM UTC

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Unfortunately... (0.00 / 0)

the "hahahahah" should be pointed at you and all of us. Certainly nobody here is close to surrendering, but did you honestly believe that a guy who told lobbyists to get in to him while the buying was cheap, who caved in part to the Gang of 3, and who is a life long politician was going to really change things? Sure, "Change" sounds nice because the consensus is that Obama is the greatest thing since sliced bread (but, please...can't you pick people who pay their taxes!?), but the "high-fucking-larious" attitude should be replaced with - holy shit...we are still getting screwed. The folks in power now are no different than those before. Unfortunately, and I know you will disagree, not only did the we return to the voiceless fight against three men in a room, but upstate New York is really left in the cold.

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by: 123allent @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 16:47:27 PM UTC

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Unfortunately... (0.00 / 0)

You are wrong... again.

The lobbyist thing was a joke. We already established this before, even though plenty of people didn't get the joke (hard to imagine in New York, I know). The "Gang of Three" thing is what it is. I would have done it differently, I criticized Malcolm Smith for it and that was that. It is done and over with now. Those three will have to live with the consequences.

As for Smith being a "lifelong politician," he isn't. He has only been in elected office since 2001 (after winning in 2000). Before that, he has been involved in politics and also has a background in economic development.

I'm not going to judge anyone on their work in a span of 30 to 35 days. Talk to me when this session is over and I will have an opinion of how well (or how poorly) they did.

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by: robert.harding @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 16:59:09 PM UTC

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Pot... (0.00 / 0)

...kettle...black.

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by: Waterloo Native @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 13:25:31 PM UTC

Democrats are talking to the people of the state... (0.00 / 0)

they just need to listen more intently...we want reform.  I don't blame them (Democratic leaders) for ignoring the Senate Republicans who have offered nothing to help with repairing the damage done by overspending for years and years.  Please see this article from the past . . . http://timesunion.com/AspStori...   entitled Senate serves up pork This article appeared in the Albany Times-Union May 14, 2008 when Wall Street was tumbling.  Let's see a NY State Senate Republican come out and say "We need to raise taxes on wealthier New Yorkers!"  and "We need the Republicans in Congress to work with President Obama to past a stimulus package that will give tax cuts to the middle class and shift the tax burden to the wealthy."    . . I won't hold my breath . . .

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by: otsegoblue @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 13:30:25 PM UTC

I am far from wrong... (0.00 / 0)

Although, I know it is hard for you to accept. I am 100% positive you will be bitching and whining from the top of a soapbox somewhere about the great injustices in Albany.

If Bruno made the lobbyist "joke" you would have flipped your lid. Merely because you think it was a joke does not make it so. 3 men in the room again...that is a fact.

You see what you want and are blind to what you don't want to see if it does not fit your argument.

Maybe you can be the voice for the screwed in upstate NY?  

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by: 123allent @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 17:05:07 PM UTC

I won't be on a soapbox... (0.00 / 0)

Although, I have already written about the "great injustices" many times over that occur in Albany. I know that you are selective in what you read here and what you think, but maybe if you didn't stop in for the occasional flame war you would see that this blog is more than just a Democratic love fest.

If Bruno made the lobbyist joke, I wouldn't have cared. There are far more important issues to discuss than what someone says at what amounted to a picnic of some sort. After Smith said that, everyone spent the weekend and the Monday that followed dissecting what he said and trying to determine if he was joking or not. I'll take the man at his word that it was a bad joke.

If I was a party hack, I would be drooling over Paterson, Silver and Smith. I wouldn't criticize them. Instead, I would do everything in my power to defend them even if I knew they were wrong. That is not what I am.

A voice for upstate? I am just one of those voices. There are many bloggers (and activists) from upstate that have been speaking out on the issues in this state. Some are Democrats, others are Republicans. I don't consider upstate "screwed." Because if upstate is screwed, then all over New York is screwed.  

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by: robert.harding @ Wed Feb 04, 2009 at 17:57:50 PM UTC

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