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On the ground in NY-20: Steele's last stand

by: Exile on Ericsson St.

Sun Mar 29, 2009 at 18:02:28 PM EDT


A friend who is canvassing in NY-20 writes
the Field Staff is saying that this is Michael Steele's last stand.  it may just be motivational, but perhaps there is something to it

It's interesting to me that Republican sources leaked the idea that Steele will get fired as RNC chair if Tedisco loses.  They had to know that this would indeed be a good motivator for Democrats.

I also asked my friend to describe how various issues were playing.  He wrote:

The focus of the campaign staff is GOTV, therefore canvassers aren't asking about issues.  But invariably some voters are still undecided.  Much of the voters' critique of Scott Murphy surrounds his status as a wealthy guy in an economic downturn, and his assumed link to the current financial crisis.  Even though there is no connection between Scott Murphy and derivative traders or anyone else culpable for our current recession, undecided voters are susceptible to this line of Tedisco attack, and it shows in conversation.  I talked to one gentleman today who told me that he was genuinely undecided because he doesn't trust Tedisco, but he feels that Murphy is too tight with people on Wall Street.  

Overwhelmingly however the voters are responding positively to Murphy message.  Despite working for 8 hours, even skilled canvassers were having difficultly getting to more than one turf, because the lists are so thick.  I think this illustrated how throughly the field staff have culled the 20th CD for issues and support.  Because of the field work prior our arrival, there is a real sense that Murphy will win, despite the districts intrinsic difficulty.  

Many people I spoke with had very sour thoughts on Tedisco, believing correctly that his years in Albany's fishbowl have alienated him from his constituents, and put him on the wrong side of the issues.  Either way, if Tedisco continues to lose traction, if the markets continue to respond, and if we have three more solid days of GOTV, this race could surprise everybody.  Get people down to the 20th if they have time, every voters counts!  

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steele is toast (4.00 / 2)
if he blows this one, and probably even if he is able to squeak it out. regardless, they are looking for their resurgence, the place and time they can point to and say our fortunes changed here, to start here in NY. i say fuck a bunch of that. they'll eventually turn things around for themselves and their party, but i say we let them do that somewhere else and at some other time.

and as much as i'd hate to lose him for many obvious reasons, i say we help sent steele packing this tuesday.

TODAY is day one. It always is.


They can't fire him (4.00 / 1)
without a two-thirds vote by the full RNC, which doesn't really meet all that often. But if they go through the full show of firing him, it will make them look even more awful than they already do.

I love it :-)


They can't fire him (4.00 / 1)
because he's the first Black RNC chair, and all the white people who aren't racists won't look too kindly on the party pinning their own failures on a black guy.

And because of what you said.


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sure they can and they will (0.00 / 0)
of course, he won't be "fired", he'll move on to pursue "other opportunities" or some such nonsense. mark my words, if they lose this one, he's done.

TODAY is day one. It always is.

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i think they have to fire him (4.00 / 1)
He's the most incompetent party leader of any kind that I have ever seen.  

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again (0.00 / 0)
it's semantics. he'll be functionally shitcanned. the only debate is over what they'll call it.

TODAY is day one. It always is.

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Maybe (0.00 / 0)
they'll promote him to become an assistant at the Fed, LOL.

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Just a thought... (4.00 / 1)
But does anyone really believe that the Republicans biggest problem is Michael Steele?

Certainly, Steele isn't the most capable leader they have had. But the Republicans started losing elections in 2006. That's when they lost both the House and Senate to the Democrats. Democrats also made gains in many states during that cycle.

Then came 2008. The Republicans lose the White House and the Democrats make greater gains in the House and Senate. More state-level victories can be added to that list.

I'm not about to say that Steele isn't going to get fired. Maybe he will, maybe he won't. But I don't see Steele as the failure here. The Republican Party (not just Steele) have tried to make NY-20 their turnaround. Actually, it might turn out to be the best example of what is wrong with the Republicans.

Even in a very Republican district - one of the most red districts in the state - the GOP can't pull out a win. What a story that will be late Tuesday night and early Wednesday. Not only will it help the Democrats and keep us motivated, but it will put the Republicans into a bigger hole.  


That's just it (0.00 / 0)
Michael Steele has Nothing to do with the failures of the Republican party. Its 1 part natural pendulum, 1 part plethora of corruption scandals, 1 part Bush/Rove, 1 part War/Economy, and 1 part doing a poor job of transitioning to the "happier" negative ads that have been more accepted by the public.

Republicans will be back in control of at least one house of congress or the Presidency by 2016. Firing (or whatever they call it) Steele would be as stupid as hiring him was.


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I kind of agree... (0.00 / 0)
While I do think that it is natural for these shifts in power to happen, I'm not certain that the Republicans will get one house back by 2016. I don't see them taking the Senate back by then, which means that the House would be the target. And I think the majority in the House is large enough to withstand any sort of rally during the Obama presidency.

And I wouldn't say Steele has nothing to with the failures of the Republican Party. He's part of the problem, but so are a lot of people. So while I don't pin it all on him, I also don't let him off the hook.

What I see is that the average American realizes what happened from 2001 to 2009. From 2001 to 2007, the Republicans had total control. They had the White House and they had both houses of Congress. When the Republicans lost Congress, the term "Do-Nothing Congress" was invoked and there was a lot of merit to that statement. The Republicans failed in Iraq and they failed in other areas of foreign policy. They obviously failed miserably on the economy and they failed on many areas of domestic policy as well. The average American sees that and that's what led to all of this change over the last few years.

I'm not in the business of giving advice to the Republicans, but they need to separate themselves from the neo-conservative movement that stole the party away from the other elements and have proven to be the loudest voices. That would be a starting point. Then they would have to prove to the American people that they do have some new ideas and that they can be leaders.

But that's still a long ways away.  


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