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NY-20: Tedisco supporter gives up, plus another counting outrage

by: devtob

Thu Apr 16, 2009 at 18:59:14 PM EDT


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It continues to look good for Scott Murphy in his close down-to-the-absentees contest with Jim Tedisco in the nationally significant 20th Congressional District special election -- Murphy's official lead is 178, and most of the uncounted absentee ballots are clearly votes for him.

Over at Tedisco-supporting Planet Albany, the blog of longtime, though evidently laid off last November, Schenectady Gazette reporter Bob Conner, Conner has essentially thrown in the towel.

And today's counting session in Dutchess County was handicapped by the county GOP elections commissioner taking off, with Tedisco's lead lawyer, to go see the Yankees' opener.

More about both, with a bit of karma, below.

devtob :: NY-20: Tedisco supporter gives up, plus another counting outrage
Conner has been critical of Tedisco's campaign before, and he's even more critical now that all remains is the fat lady's song.

Conner is, like Tedisco presumably, already looking to next year:

If, as seems likely now, Jim Tedisco winds up losing this election, he should not run again for the congressional seat unless he acknowledges the egregious errors made by his campaign this time around.

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Tedisco got into the race because he thought he would easily beat whoever the Democrats put up, and he should have done just that to the political novice Murphy.

Tedisco lost because he and the NRCC ran a lousy campaign, and failed to correct their strategy and tactics (despite feinting in that direction) when it became glaringly obvious that the negative ads were counterproductive.

They failed to mention major local issues like dairy prices that could have helped in Republican areas like Washington County where they performed very poorly, failed to tell voters about Tedisco's substantive record in public service, indulged in lame gimmicks and talking points and lived in a bubble of denial.

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The Siena polls showed Tedisco failed to get enough votes from what should have been his Republican base, which doesn't suggest that it's his conservatism that did him in. Nor was it his waffling for too long on the stimulus. It was the overall campaign incompetence.

Unless Tedisco admits that, and in effect apologizes to Republican and conservative voters for sticking them with liberal Democratic representation for the next two years, he will not deserve their support in 2010. And if he does run then, and runs the same kind of campaign, then no matter what happens to the country and the district in the meantime, Murphy will clobber him.

Conner's analysis is mostly correct, especially the bits about Tedisco's using "lame gimmicks and talking points and liv(ing) in a bubble of denial."

But his idea that Tedisco just needed to energize the conservative base does not recognize that that base is no longer large enough to win in the 20th -- the district is a lot more purple than it once was, and some substantial number of Republicans there have gotten into the habit of voting for solid, somewhat moderate Democrats like Murphy and Kirsten Gillibrand.

In Dutchess County, today's count was hampered by the decision of Elections Commissioner David Gamache to attend the Yankees' opener against the Indians this afternoon.

Gamache went to the game with John Ciampoli, Tedisco's lead lawyer. I wonder who paid.

According to Jimmy Vielkind (who's been covering the after-election better than anyone), fewer ballots were counted as a result:

Daniel French, a Democratic official with the Dutchess County Board of Elections, said that they couldn't complete the recount because Republican elections Commissioner David Gamache was attending a Yankees game this afternoon with John Ciampoli, an attorney for state Republican Party chair Joe Mondello.

French says that Gamache had authorized a deputy commissioner, Patricia Hohmann, to fill in for him at the table, but says that Gamache only authorized her to count military ballots -- which generally tend to skew Republican -- from towns from which domestic absentee ballots had already been counted.

Once the military ballots were counted, French said, Hohmann simply left, with three towns' worth of absentee ballots -- from Stanford, Unionvale and Washington -- still unopened.

Tedisco has been seeking to delay and extend the counting process, as he hopes to get yet another extension for reception of overseas military absentee ballots.

It won't help him win, but it's the only slim reed he has left.

Here's the karma part -- Gamache and Ciampoli got to watch the Yankees get creamed 10-2 by the Indians.

Tedisco's loss will be closer, but it's just as certain.

Even so, please do whatever you can to help Murphy ensure that every legal absentee ballot is counted and that he wins by as much as possible.  

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This won't be the last analysis of (4.00 / 4)
how Tedisco lost that refuses to recognize that upstate districts like the 20th have changed, even if the GOP registration advantage remains.

Is that a joke? (4.00 / 5)
Or did Ciampoli really go to a Yankee baseball game with a Commish while ballots are sitting before them uncounted?

No joke (4.00 / 3)
Tedisco is obviously in no hurry to lose.

And his lawyer used a culture-war sneak attack to defend taking essentially all of today off:

"Who cares?" Ciampoli said, when I (Vielkind) asked if he was attending this afternoon's game. "So what? Counsel had an agreement as to what work needs to be done, and we're abiding by that."

He noted that one of the Democratic attorneys, Joshua Ehrlich, has tickets to see the Dead this weekend. (Erlich is indeed going to see the Dead, but the concert is at night when there's no recounting scheduled.)

 

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How much do Yankees tickets cost? (4.00 / 3)
And who did pay?

There are real ethics issued involved here.

A day at a major league baseball game ain't cheap. If a vendor that my company did business with took me out to a Yankees game I would be required to report it due to the dollar value of the gift. I would probably be in hot water because of it too.

Who paid? Show me the receipts.


[ Parent ]
How much do the dirty tricks cost? (4.00 / 1)
Now that this is getting absurd, who is funding the Tedisco (or Coleman) battles?  

When I think "absurd" I think of the tea-baggers.  But I know it's not them because they are too cheap to even want to pay their fare share of taxes.  And I can be quite sure T'Disco's dirty tricks aren't being funded by many people from the district.  

We can do better.  If every Murphy voter provided a dollar, his legal fund would double.  Same if just 8,000 gave $10.  But more realistically, if just 1% of us skip the next ball game and give $100 instead, we just might be able to preserve an important slice of Democracy.  

Can you donate?  
Green is an essential color for grass roots


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I doubt they really went to the game (4.00 / 1)
They obviously find pranks and tactics they can use to influence their tea-bagging base much more than a fair counting of votes by we, the people.  Or are they planning to tromp on the 'Bush v Gore tarnished' 10th amendment by taking this all the way through NY and Federal courts?  

I don't believe it was Turdisco's campaign strategy that hurt him.  He managed to do a great job of getting far too many of the people I spoke with to believe "both sides were being negative and dishonest."  Murphy's quickly put together 'DC consultant class Democrat' campaign was far from perfect as well  (although due to time constraints, wasn't bad either.)  

No, it wasn't T'disco's campaign that hurt him.  After all, he did manage to get just under 50% of the people to vote for him, regardless the vast difference between the two candidates.  When someone so lacking in accomplishment, intelligence, and integrity can anyone other than the tea-baggers who provide 17% of the votes, we have a major problem in society and the manner in which people come to their decisions.  


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GOP is Out of Touch (0.00 / 0)
While I agree with the criticisms of the Tedisco campaign's tactics, there is a bigger story here.  

This district was gerrymandered to elect a Republican Congressman.  In two consecutive elections, perfectly acceptable GOP nominees without scandal attached to their names (unlike former Rep. Sweeney) have beed defeated despite a 70,000 vote registration advantage.

The fact is that the standard conservative, Republican platform is no longer in the mainstream of political thought.  If that party cannot win an open Republican seat, with an established Republican official, with a novice Democratic opponent, then it will not be able to win in any evenly drawn district in NYS.

The GOP is no longer a national party.  

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