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NY-23: Where The Race Stands In The 23rd

by: robert.harding

Fri Jun 05, 2009 at 07:48:01 AM EDT


It will be awhile - possibly over a month - before John McHugh is confirmed as the new Secretary of the Army, a post that many contend he is qualified for and is deserving of.

But with an open seat and a special election coming up, speculation is growing about who are possible candidates for the race and there have been a number of reports telling us who is out.

One person who can't avoid the speculation is Sen. Darrel Aubertine. Aubertine has been mentioned from the very beginning as a possible Democratic candidate for this seat. He hasn't ruled out a run, but such a run (if he were to win) would put the New York State Senate majority in jeopardy.

But if the Democrats want to win this seat, Aubertine wouldn't be a bad pick. He has proven that he can win in the North Country and a portion of the district (about one-third of the registered voters, give or take) overlaps with his state senate district. So it would be tough for him not to run, but as we learned with Scott Murphy, if the candidate is smart and willing to work hard, we have a chance either way.

On the Republican side, their pool is growing. The National Journal lists 12 Republicans who are still in the running. That list includes Assemblywoman DeDe Scozzafava, who has drawn the ire of conservatives due to her support of marriage equality. They are already saying that if she is the nominee, she will have a tough time getting the Conservative Party line, which a Republican candidate rarely goes without in New York State.

Other candidates include a businessman (Ex-Deutsche Bank Managing Director Matt Doheny) who could self-finance a race, something that might interest the Republicans. Sen. Joe Griffo is still considering a run. His senate district overlaps with the congressional district and considering his age, would not be a bad choice to replace McHugh. McHugh's chief of staff Robert Taub has also been mentioned since the very beginning as a possible heir to the seat.

There are no Democrats out of the race, although I have heard rumblings that state Chairwoman June O'Neill would not run. There are a few Republicans out, according to the National Journal. Former Sen. Jim Wright is out. We already knew Sen. Betty Little was out. And the 2006 nominee from NY-24, Ray Meier, reconsidered and said he was not interested in running.

At this point, it is clear who the favorite on the Democrats' side is. On the Republican side, it's not too clear. It seems like Scozzafava's name has been mentioned a lot and that could mean something, but I have heard Griffo's name mentioned just as much, along with Taub.

I could see both sides going for members of the business community, which would make this race wide open. If this race is between elected officials, I think we would have a better idea of where the race stands. But with businesspeople involved, we will have no idea how well (or how poorly) they will perform. It would be an interesting race from that aspect.

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I trust that the 11 Dem. County Chairs will choose wisely (0.00 / 0)
They have already begun the collaborative process of identifying & evaluating candidates, and they will make a recommendation about the best candidate.  
Then we can all work to win the election.

re. Aubertine's district (0.00 / 0)
you mention that Aubertine represents a portion of the district equal to about one-third of the registered voters ... but the numbers I'm looking at, he represents a bit over 45% (compared to a bit less than 15% for Griffo; about 25% for Little's district and 15% others) ... therefore, Aubertine would seem very well positioned ...

the portion of Little's district that's in NY-23, btw, is very Democratic (approx. 60% for Obama), so when combined with Aubertine's part, you get something like 70% of NY-23 that's automatically "favorable" towards an Aubertine run.


aubertine should not run (0.00 / 0)
I hope he does not run.  It would be shortsighted.  One more conservative Dem in the House is not worth losing the state senate and control of redistricting as well as any hope for progressive govt in new york state.  It would be incredibly self serving.  If he does run, I hope he loses.

NY - 23rd (0.00 / 0)
I will work for the person selected by the County Chairs, they are for the most part, a great group of people.  Nonetheless -- the real issue for me is finding someone that can project a narrative we can all unite behind.  That person should have a compelling personal history so that the campaign narrative draws in money from traditionally progressive sources.  In addition, if that person is victorious it should be a clean with with very little collateral damage to the region and the state.  Given the above, I still have trouble with Aubertine -- there is a need to KEEP the NY State Senate in Democratic hands given how the Census will result in the Gerrymandering of Assembly, State Senate and of course our Congressional seats.

I realize that Aubertine's political calculus does not need to take into account all of the above -- but, I hope he does think about the next decade and beyond.

We still have to deal with the fact that many North Country Democrats supported McHugh for reasons other than his supposedly moderate views.  I still remember calling McHugh's Offices, in the Bush Years,  about creationist literature being placed at the National Park Service's Grand Canyon  Office.  The people at McHugh's Office were incensed to the point of being snappishly offended by my call,  McHugh's official reaction to almost any issue always followed Luntz' memes and what the leadership told him to say.   I would complain to North Country Democrats and all they would do is lemming-like say they would continue to support him -- "NO MATTER WHAT."  I still want to know why McHugh had this odd almost peculiarly strong support among Democrats up in Plattsburgh, etc.   I mean it was not like the support Boehlert earned from Democrats in Madison and Oneida County.  You could call his office and receive a sympathetic and honest hearing since he was a moderate Republican.  Boehlert would even buck the Conservative wing in his party and was a true bipartisan politician.  However if you called or wrote McHugh -- say on Obama's stimulus bill --all that you would get for a response would be Right-wing memes.  If you asked North Country Democrats about the situation --  all they would do is keep drinking his kool-aid and repeat that they continued to support him.  I wish someone in the North Country would explain ALL of THAT to the rest of us.  IMHO we need this phenomenon explained to us -- it may mean the difference between winning and losing in the NY-23rd.

Again -- we need someone who will courageously address the needs of those of us who live in NY-23rd.  The last thing we need is another McHugh!  I still think a woman with a strong resume would make a better candidate.



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