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NY-Sen: Tasini Campaigns In Ithaca; Cooper Challenges Gillibrand On Public Option

by: robert.harding

Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 22:06:54 PM EDT


Things have been quiet on the Democratic primary front for Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. But as her recess winds down, one challenger is on the campaign trail and other possible opponent challenges her on the public option.

Jonathan Tasini was in Ithaca over the weekend campaigning and raising money. Ithaca (and Tompkins County) was where Tasini performed best in upstate New York. In 2006, Sen. Hillary Clinton defeated Tasini in Tompkins by 828 votes. The final tally was Clinton 2,849 to Tasini's 2,021.

Despite massive disadvantages in name recognition and fundraising, Tasini thinks the economic crisis and state government meltdown have left people more open to his brand of change than they've ever been. Tasini was in Ithaca Sunday campaigning and fundraising.

"The political machine in this state does not work for the people. The political machine in this state works for the politicians and the careers of politicians, and people are fed up with that," he said.

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Prior to accepting her Senate seat, Gillibrand worked for the tobacco and gun industries, and she is "awash" in money from special interests, Tasini said.

Tasini's contributions are all from individuals, while almost $700,000 of Gillibrand's are from political action committees, including hospitals, insurance companies, financial services and the natural gas industry, according to the FEC database.

If elected, Tasini said his top priorities would be strengthening the labor movement through widespread unionization; rewriting free trade policies to protect workers as well as corporations; and raising taxes on corporations and couples making more than $351,000 rather than "borrow(ing) from the Chinese."

On health care, he supports single-payer government insurance by opening Medicare to everyone.

A possible challenger, Suffolk County Legislator Jon Cooper, tried to push Gillibrand on health care reform. Specifically, he challenged her on her support of a public option.

Jon Cooper, a local Long Island official who may be the only elected official remaining to challenge Kristen Gillibrand, sends out an email today that shows how the approaching midterms polarize the debate.

The punch line of the email:

   As you know, I strongly believe that any meaningful health care reform must include a government-run public option. That's why I was greatly concerned by phone calls I placed last week to all six of Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's district offices. Staffers at each office advised me that Senator Gillibrand is willing to consider supporting alternatives to the public option, such as health insurance co-ops.

On both sides, the public option is becoming a potent primary wedge, which isn't exactly a spur to rational debate.

Thanks to Ben, I have included the full e-mail below the fold.

Cooper's approach is an interesting one, given Gillibrand's stated support of a public option. She can consider alternatives all she wants, but her stance is in strong support of a public option. She hasn't wavered from that.

On Tasini, it is hard to take him seriously when he goes to virtually the only place in upstate where he stood a chance in 2006. He needs to go elsewhere if he wants to be considered a serious candidate. Right now, Dr. Scott Noren seems to be a more serious option than Tasini, who ran against Clinton in 2006 on a platform of holding her accountable for her Iraq War vote (which is a nice idea, but hardly something to run a U.S. Senate campaign on).

Cooper has the right idea. Cooper has said that he is going to travel to upstate and visit Democrats in places like Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse. Tasini should be doing the same, but that has yet to happen.

robert.harding :: NY-Sen: Tasini Campaigns In Ithaca; Cooper Challenges Gillibrand On Public Option
Dear Friends,

As you know, I strongly believe that any meaningful health care reform must include a government-run public option. That's why I was greatly concerned by phone calls I placed last week to all six of Senator Kirsten Gillibrand's district offices. Staffers at each office advised me that Senator Gillibrand is willing to consider supporting alternatives to the public option, such as health insurance co-ops.

Healthcare

Most Americans support the public health insurance option. Luckily, there are enough progressives in the House to block passage of any bill that does not include the public option, and President Obama recently reiterated his support. I agree with President Obama when he said that the public option is the best way to increase competition, expand coverage and reduce health care costs in the long run.

The real threat to the public option is in the Senate, where Republicans and conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats continue to oppose any health care reform plan that offers the choice of a government-run program.

Please call Senator Gillibrand today and urge her not to back away from her previous support for the public health insurance option. Make sure Senator Gillibrand understands that New Yorkers are unwilling to settle for anything less than real, comprehensive health care reform. The public option is non-negotiable.

Following are the phone numbers for Senator Gillibrand's district offices statewide:

Albany: (518) 431-0120
Buffalo: (716) 854-9725
Melville: (631) 249-2825
New York City: (212) 688-6262
Rochester: (585) 263-6250
Syracuse: (315) 448-0470

With your support, we can still win the battle for real health care reform. Thanks in advance for all your continued efforts at this critical time.

Best regards,

Jon
Jon Cooper

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Campaigning in your best area (4.00 / 1)
is bad politics 101. Its an unbelievable waste of time. Mr. Tasini, I know you read this: if you want to get any votes at all, concentrate on places where people don't support you yet. It sounds obvious, but you can't win without more votes than last time, which means you need a new type of supporter; Ithaca hippies are already on your team.

As to the second part, there are so many things that need fixing in the US Health Care system that will bring costs down drastically that have nothing to do with a public option and as much as I want a public option, I think it would be a tragedy to let all these other direly needed reforms die, killing thousands and costing trillions, because we cant get 60 public option votes in the Senate. Senator Gillibrand has stated her preference for a public option before, and I trust Senator Gillibrand's instincts.


I don't believe Tasini's really serious. (4.00 / 2)
If he were, he'd be developing a press and communication operation. He'd be forging links with statewide media. He'd be reaching out to places like TAP. Hell, we've had outreach people contact us lately from Louise Slaughter, who's about as entrenched a congresscritter as you're ever likely to find, and they're still trying to get the word out. I see no evidence Tasini's not doing his gadfly thing here, with no expectation of victory.  

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Agreed... (0.00 / 0)
Just look at Tasini's platform.

If elected, Tasini said his top priorities would be strengthening the labor movement through widespread unionization; rewriting free trade policies to protect workers as well as corporations; and raising taxes on corporations and couples making more than $351,000 rather than "borrow(ing) from the Chinese."

The first thing listed there is, essentially, recruiting more union members. That's not a job for a U.S. senator. That's a job for a union organizer. If that's what Tasini wants to be, he should stick with his day job. If he wants to be a U.S. senator, he's going to need to expand his horizons past the labor movement and start thinking outside the box about other issues.

It's also a habit of Tasini to run an anti-incumbent campaign. He admitted to running against Hillary Clinton solely because of her Iraq War vote. I didn't like that either, but the vote was four years prior. It's not a great campaign tool to say that you are running against someone because of a vote they cast four years ago.

If Cooper enters the fray, I don't see Tasini running a full-blown campaign. He might even drop out in favor of supporting Cooper.  


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If he were serious, he'd run for State Senate. (0.00 / 0)
It's become obvious recently that it's a much bigger problem than the US Senate or US House members from NY.

And, hell, he could run to represent Ithaca.  We're currently represented by a particularly self-dealing Republican, George "state pension for being an Assemblyman + pay for being a Senator" Winner, who used to spend all his time working for Joe Bruno, and appears to have switched his allegiance to Golisano.  He uses state money to campaign, and he never does anything which is actually useful for anyone.  I would love to get rid of him; he's significantly worse than the other Republican Senators in this area, and that's saying something!

But no, Tasini is making a quixotic run at US Senate.


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I know people move around the state (0.00 / 0)
but wouldn't running for State Senator from Ithaca seem more than a lot carpet-baggy?

Especially given the rest of the district?  I'd say that's an even more quixotic idea.

I'm not sure what his home State Senate district is, but that might be less quixotic than either of these others...


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Exactly... (0.00 / 0)
That would be like Barack Obama going to Illinois, Hawaii, California, New York and spending all his time and energy in the Northeast.

Tasini has done two things to date: Stayed in New York City or campaigned in Tompkins County. Big surprise.

I agree that more reforms are needed, but without a public option, we aren't expanding access. You can cut administrative costs all you want, but if that doesn't lead to more access (which it won't unless your administrative cost cutting involves a single payer system) then the uninsured will remain the uninsured.  


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Regarding health insurance.... (0.00 / 0)
"there are so many things that need fixing in the US Health Care system that will bring costs down drastically that have nothing to do with a public option"

We have all of those things in NY, except for individual mandates and a public option.  I don't want to be forced to pay money to support insurance company bureaucrats who deny me care, or to support obscene CEO salaries or health insurer dividends.  Individual mandates are not acceptable without a public option.

Accordingly, here in NY, if we don't have a public option, we get NOTHING.  The "direly needed reforms" are needed in places like Texas.  Here, they get us jack.


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We have NONE of those things in New York!!!! (0.00 / 0)
What in God's name are you talking about? We pay surgeons a salary in New York? We have pre-end-of-life counseling in New York to give people the opportunity to sign DNRs and such? We have negotiated prescription drug prices in New York? If you would like, I'll come up with 50 things like this, each with billions in savings. I'm serious.

You are 100% wrong.

You are 10000% wrong.

I want to insult your intelligence, but that would be superfluous after a comment like the one you made. Wow that was ignorant.


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Um, you don't seem to know what you're talking about. (0.00 / 0)
Perhaps I didn't make myself clear.  We have everything else which has been proposed in the federal bills.

(1) We have negotiated prescription drug prices on every insurance plan I've seen in NY including SCHIP and Medicaid.  Will that change in any of the proposed bill?  No, it will not.
(2) Some hospitals do, in fact, pay surgeons a salary.  Is that mandatory in any of the proposed bills?  No, it is not.  No change.
(3) We have pre-end-of-life counseling; yes, my family members got it.  Is it mandatory?  No.  OK, that would be a change in some of the bills.  Not one with significant money savings!

So what in God's name are you talking about?  I mean, yeah, there are marvellous reforms we could make, but out of the reforms actually being proposed, we pretty much have all of them.

We have guaranteed issue and community rating, and a long list of mandatory coverages.


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I would like to insult your intelligence too.... (0.00 / 0)
But I'll just assume that you were confused, because I was unclear and failed to specify that we have essentially all the reforms WHICH HAVE BEEN SERIOUSLY PROPOSED AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THIS TIME AROUND, not all possible reforms ever dreamt up by any activist.

I am, with that correction, 1000% right.


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if he's fundraising, Ithaca is the place (0.00 / 0)
I agree that campaigning in Ithaca isn't brilliant, though of course there's a long time between August 2009 and September 2010.

For fundraising, though, of course he's in Tompkins County.  He has a strong base of supporters here, there are a lot of left folks here who have no trust in the political establishment, and there's certainly money here as well.

I know TAP folks enjoy knocking any opponent Gillibrand has, but stop a while and think about where you might fundraise if you were in fact an opponent without a large bankroll or party support.  I suspect Ithaca would be near the top of your list, at least if you were primarying from the left.

And no, he won't be getting a donation from me.


Maybe... (0.00 / 0)
I know TAP folks enjoy knocking any opponent Gillibrand has, but stop a while and think about where you might fundraise if you were in fact an opponent without a large bankroll or party support.  I suspect Ithaca would be near the top of your list, at least if you were primarying from the left.

I could certainly do without the first part, which was unnecessary and petty. You made your point. You didn't need to take a jab at the pro-Gillibrand crowd here.

I am not knocking Cooper at this point. I want to hear what he has to say. While I question why he would criticize Gillibrand (especially since his stance on health care is the same), I am willing to hear him out and see what he offers. I suspect, being that he is currently an elected official, he won't be running on the same anti-Gillibrand platform.

This is more about Tasini's ridiculousness and his lack of a real campaign. He was campaigning AND fundraising. I agree with you. Ithaca is a good place to go to raise money. But since that's where he fared pretty well last time, he might want to try visiting some other places that he hasn't been to. After all, if he wants to be a U.S. senator, he represents all of us, not just Tompkins County.


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it's a year out (0.00 / 0)
At this point in a campaign, I'd be wondering about Tasini's "lack of a real campaign" if he wasn't in Tompkins County raising money.

On that note, Cooper would be smart to get up here.  It's one place upstate where he's likely to get a serious hearing, and again, maybe some fundraising.  He'd be foolish to leave that all to Tasini, if he's serious.


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What is it about Gillibrand that gets some people riled up? (4.00 / 2)
I realize I'm a little prejudiced.  I live in her former district NY-20.  She's a she (yeah!); She had good constituent service; She has an upstate focus which I think is grear.  Schumer and Clinton were very supportive of upstate needs.  Yet, with all the wheeling and dealing that goes into getting money, having a senator who has actually lived upstate is a boon.

Gillibrand is no Raymond Burris.  She may not be perfect, but it makes WAY more sense to focus like a laser on 2 things - defeating the 3 remaining Republican Reps (Don't know which way NY-23 is going, but Repub or Dem, the winning candidate has to start running for the 2010 election immediately.

And.... Dealing with the

THE TOTALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL STATE LEGISLATURE
A NEW OR RIVISED STATE CONSTITUTION

These are the pressing issues for this state.  I have voted for a Republican once in my life (I'm 60), but I am ready to support even Republicans to shake up the incumbency gridlock the state legislature has.  (But not enough to flip the senate back to republican majority.)

Thinking about whether or not to support Gillibrand is like trying to decide whether to sit in the front or the back of the lifeboat.  The frigging ship is sinking, so get your ass of it & don't sweat details.

HylasBrook


If you're willing to vote for Republicans (0.00 / 0)
Not in the State Senate, please.  The Assembly, well, OK, if you think it will help break Silver's stranglehold.

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