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NY-Sen: GOP tries to recruit Rudy 9/11

by: devtob

Tue Sep 15, 2009 at 12:15:13 PM EDT


Some anonymous NY Republicans are lobbying former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani to challenge Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand next year, according to Fred Dicker of the New York Post.

This is a new one, and plausible given Dicker's impeccable GOP sources -- the conventional wisdom had been that the Republicans wanted Giuliani to run for governor next year, and former Gov. George Pataki to take on Gillibrand.

Details, below.

devtob :: NY-Sen: GOP tries to recruit Rudy 9/11
Dicker's sources are, naturally, excited about getting a guy with major name recognition and proven fund-raising ability to challenge Gillibrand, and evidently not so excited about the other guy with major name recognition and proven fund-raising ability.

And they are pretty sure that Giuliani is not interested in a gubernatorial race against Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who is polling miles better that incumbent Gov. David Paterson.

Here's some common-sense analysis, from a "prominent Republican":

It makes so much sense for Rudy to run for the Senate and not try to go head-to-head with Cuomo.

He'll have an immediate national platform in the Senate. He can take the lead on homeland security and national defense and, depending on what conditions are in the country in 2012, he could run for president again.

But if he ran for governor and won, he'd have to stick around Albany for at least four years and try to solve New York's massive problems, which, frankly, everyone believes can't be fixed.

But Giuliani takes a few hits in the story, related to his behind-the-scenes campaign for the losing candidate for state GOP chairman, also from a quotable anonymous source:

He has a terrible political organization: His people are nasty and vindictive -- not a good combination -- and I hear he's pretty upset with the advice he got on all of this.

So Giuliani failed in that, just as he FAILED as the front-runner for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.

Yeah, that's the guy the Republicans think can do what no other former NYC mayor has done -- win a statewide election.

To keep this diary shorter, I won't catalog the many political and personal scandals that would make it practically impossible for Giuliani to win statewide. But, believe me, there is a cornucopia of oppo stuff on Giuliani.

Nor will I repeat all the ways that Gillibrand is doing an excellent job as Senator and will be tough for anyone, including Rudy 9/11, to beat next year.

Giuliani knows all that, and will probably pass on challenging Gillbrand, despite the entreaties of state Republicans desperate for a well-known, wealthy candidate.

Because he knows that losing to her will end his political career.

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Hi Devtob - news like that will make (4.00 / 1)
Democrats coelesce behind Gillibrand even more.

I agree, I don't think Guiliani will be able to go the distance.

Pataki might be an interesting challenge, but with New York's strong blue trend, I doubt he would succeed.  What Democrat wants to vote for someone who's still likely to be part of the minority party in the Senate?  And no Republican candidate can win without Democratic support.

Gillibrand is smart - delivering some good projects for downstate should 'seal the deal' for that part of the state.

I think this is where the Republicans' right wing tack has really helped.  Back in the Jacob Javitz days, a Republican Senator for New York wasn't an unlikely event.  But now, who wants the state to have half its senate seats going to such a right wing party?

Anyhow, I think NY Republicans know there isn't a chance for anyone in their party & will offer up a sacrificial lamb - a Rich Lazio/2010.

HylasBrook


The Republicans have a strong shot (0.00 / 0)
at taking the House in 2010.  I think they will do well in the 2010 state elections, here.  The only check on them is . .  . them.  The Liberty Movement is the wild card.  Can they produce viable candidates in 2010?  In 2012?

Interesting . . . .    


[ Parent ]
Pataki is a spent force in NYS ploitics. The (0.00 / 0)
2006 election was the nadir of the state Republican Party.  Giuliani is an interesting case.  He can probably beat Gillibrand, her movement Left in a rightward-shifting electorate was a bad move, but not if he runs as he did in the 2008 Election.  

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