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NY-Gov: If Lazio Is The GOP Nominee, Paterson Can Run... And Win

by: robert.harding

Fri Oct 02, 2009 at 00:15:01 AM EDT


Governor David Paterson has made it clear that he wants to run again in 2010. His poll numbers aren't very good. He loses to Attorney General Andrew Cuomo in a hypothetical primary and possible Republican challenger Rudy Giuliani holds a double-digit lead.

The only candidate Paterson beats? Republican Rick Lazio, who has declared his candidacy for governor.

Steve over at Daily Kos has this analysis on the New York gubernatorial race:

NY-Gov: Is Romney Tipping Rudy's Hand?
There are a couple of different ways to read into this nugget of news out of the Empire State: apparently, 2008 GOP presidential contender (and, to many, the 2012 favorite) Mitt Romney will be heading to New York in three weeks to host a fundraiser for 2010 gubernatorial candidate Rick Lazio. This could be seen as a sign that Giuliani is going to eventually demur from seeking the governorship, since Romney would be unlikely to expend a lot of political capital on a candidate who polls show would have little chance of winning the GOP nomination against Giuliani. This could also be a sign that there were some seriously hard feelings about the 2008 presidential race, and Romney feels like giving Rudy a little clip at the knees. It is worth noting that Lazio is a Romney friend, as well as an endorser of the former Massachusetts Governor's presidential campaign last year.

While I don't think Romney will have such an impact (if Giuliani decides not to run, it will be on his own, not because he isn't aligned with Romney or because Lazio is Romney's horse in this race), I do think if Giuliani were to take a pass and no other serious Republican challenger steps up to run, we could see Paterson give it a go in 2010.

For that to happen, Paterson will need some help.

- Giuliani would need to announce he isn't running OR Giuliani could run for U.S. Senate against Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. That would take away the GOP's best candidate for the seat.

- Cuomo will have to pass on the Democratic primary. This is the least likely of the two. Cuomo's poll numbers show that he would win a primary. He is a very popular attorney general and would get a lot of support in a primary and general election. He is the biggest threat to Paterson.

- Lazio isn't the strongest of candidates, yet he is only within a few percentage points of Paterson. While it's too close for comfort, it's a race Paterson can win.

I don't think it's likely, but we could end up with a general election of Paterson versus Lazio. What a campaign that would be. Having a matchup like that would be like the Yankees and Red Sox losing their respective division series matchups and getting an ALCS featuring the Twins and Angels. Sure, it's still a championship, but it's not the best championship possible.  

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Or is Romney sucking up to the Republican base? (4.00 / 1)
Giuliani's steep decline from the top of the early presidential polls was predictable.  Iowans look at his stand on gay rights and throw him out.  In New Hampshire they look at his position on gun control and he's toast.  It's why he eventually staked everything on Florida, hoping there were enough retired New Yorkers who liked him, and that didn't work either.

The point, however, for this thread is that Giuliani is not liked by the Republican base, whereas Lazio is, at the very least, not disliked by that crowd.  He's far more conservative than Giuliani, he has no sense of the importance of facts, and (possibly most importantly) he went up against Hillary Clinton.

Romney might not give a hoot about the NY governor's race, but he might be trying to shore up his pro-conservative cred.  Supporting Rick Lazio against Rudy Giuliani may help.

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BTW, putting the Twins in the playoffs is an even longer shot -- Detroit's still two up with three to go, and they host the White Sox.


On Giuliani... (0.00 / 0)
I don't think it was as easy as you say it was. Iowa wasn't about gay rights (Iowa just welcomed same-sex marriage this year). New Hampshire wasn't about gun control either. It was more about the total package (or lack thereof).

Take away all the 9/11 hoopla from Giuliani and what do you get? Basically, any other past New York City mayor. The only reason he has been able to have any sort of national prominence is 9/11. Take that away, and he's just another average politician.

I think Romney cares to some degree. Let's say Lazio wins (long shot, but still somewhat possible). Romney could use that as a boost to his own political aspirations. He could has his choice of candidate won.  


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Iowa (0.00 / 0)
Iowa's government may have officially "welcomed" same-sex marriage, but Iowa Republicans certainly didn't.  In fact, according to the Des Moines Register, a majority of Iowans didn't "welcome" the court ruling.

New Hampshire's license plates read "Live Free or Die."  Gun control is a major issue in that state.  It's a "litmus-test" issue for Republicans, and Giuliani is on the wrong side (for a Republican, that is).  Same-sex marriage and abortion (oh yes, that's another issue where Giuliani differs from the party), are other "litmus-test" issues for Republicans.

By supporting Lazio, Romney is positioning himself as being in alignment with the Republican base without directly opposing Giuliani.  It appears to be a good strategic move if he wants the Republican nomination in 2012.


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If Rick Lazio is the Republican nominee for Governor next year... (0.00 / 0)
Then the New York State Republican Party might as well turn off the lights and lock the doors.

Oy. (0.00 / 0)
Given that Paterson was recently quoted in the NYT as not even having wanted the job in the first place...

Governor David Paterson has made it clear that he wants to run again in 2010. His poll numbers aren't very good.

... has to count as an understatement of some magnitude. His numbers are catastrophic. With the President stating publicly that he'd like David to withdraw, and no high-profile endorsements as of yet - notice how the two Senators and Hillary are staying mum - Paterson needs to consider options that don't include running again for an office he doesn't like, in a race we can't afford to lose.


Too right! (0.00 / 0)
Paterson needs to consider options that don't include running again for an office he doesn't like, in a race we can't afford to lose.

At this point, I am really hoping that Paterson is saying this so that Obama will offer him a bigger appointment plum than he'd get otherwise.

It would tactless thing to wait until Paterson is close to going down in the primary and then make him an offer.

But an early announcement of a meaningful appointment to be effective as of January 1, 2010 could solve this mess.

I'm an African-American, but I have come to terms with Andrew Cuomo.  We need a Democratic governor in this state.

I'd much prefer to put the time and effort into flipping a few Republican senate seats to blue so we don't have this ridiculous stand-still we had this summer.

I suspect a significant number of Democratic activists are going to make the same decision & opt out of supporting Paterson in the primary.

HylasBrook


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