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Massa Explains Vote Against H.R. 3962

by: robert.harding

Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 14:42:18 PM EST


Since his vote against H.R. 3962 Saturday night, Congressman Eric Massa has faced mounting criticism from the netroots. There are a few different reasons why:

(1) There are those who believe that while single-payer is ideal, we aren't going to get it anytime soon and that we shouldn't hold out for it. Because of that, there is a belief that Massa held out on voting for this bill because of his desire for single-payer.

(2) Doing something is better than doing nothing. And while the House bill wasn't (and isn't) perfect, it is better than doing nothing. Massa should have voted for the bill, critics say, because at least the legislation would send us in the right direction.

(3) This has been a long fight and few representatives have been as open as Massa has been during the fight. To fight for so long only to have him vote against the bill was disappointing in the eyes of those who have been working long and hard on this.

Those are some of the reasons. Now, here is Massa's explanation as sent out by his press office today:

Today Congressman Eric Massa outlined his reasons for voting against H.R. 3962 on Saturday night. To summarize the specific votes: Rep. Massa voted for the rule of debate, against the Stupak Amendment and against final passage of the bill.

When H.R. 3962 was first introduced on Thursday, October 29th, Rep. Massa canceled his weekend schedule to read and review the legislation. Following seven days of studying the bill, consulting with experts and speaking with constituents, Rep. Massa announced his intention to vote against the bill.

Rep. Massa had several concerns because the legislation did not meet several of his key objectives, including guaranteed universal access for all Americans and an assurance of individual affordability. While this bill does contain a public option, it is far from a "robust" one and Rep. Massa pledged, in a letter months ago, to vote against anything less than that. The public option in this bill is available for only about 2% of the American population and its premium rates will match private health insurance, guaranteeing no effective competition in the marketplace.

Additionally, he thinks that this bill, if signed into law, will not do enough to regulate the private for-profit health insurance industry and will actually empower them further. This is a major problem with the legislation as far as he is concerned. During the months of public debate on this topic, Rep. Massa called for the health insurance industry to be able to write plans across state lines and, while this bill partially addresses this, it does not lift this exemption outright. As such, he views this as a half measure rather than true interstate competition and believes that the goals of interstate competition will not be realized.

Rep. Massa also expressed concerns about the constitutionality of the individual mandate. While the Constitution empowers the Congress to raise and levy taxes, there is no clear indication that it allows for Congress to require the public to purchase insurance plans if they can afford them.

Detailed careful reading and understanding of the bill shows that should this become law, property taxes in New York State must increase by a minimum of 3%. By increasing Medicaid availability to citizens with an income of 150% of the federal poverty level, the federal government passes to New York State and its counties a cost sharing increase of at least 3% at the county level. Rep. Massa views this as being exceptionally counterproductive to our economy at this time.

During the closing hours of the debate, Rep. Massa voted against the Stupak Amendment which he viewed as a significant universal increase of current federal law. For the first time, if passed, the federal government would have prohibited a private citizen from using private funding to buy an insurance policy that covered elements of reproductive rights. The bill as written is clear, no federal funding for abortion procedures is allowed. Rep. Massa agrees with that but does not support an increase in federal law on this matter. This amendment passed and became part of the final legislation.

While there are several provisions that he did like in the bill, such as the elimination of patient rejections on the basis of pre-existing conditions, and the closing of the Medicare Part D Donut hole, members of Congress cannot vote for one part of a bill and against another.

"There are several reasons why I voted 'no' on H.R. 3962," said Congressman Eric Massa. "I have always said that I will vote 'no' on a bad bill to try and get a better one and that's what I did. Reforming our health care system is critical to our economy and our nation, but I had some serious concerns regarding the bill that we voted on Saturday night. If the Senate is able to move forward, I hope we can get a better bill back for a conference version."

Let me make this clear: It is hard to disagree with Massa on the points he made.

I will have more on this in another post. I will let Massa's words fill the space for now.

robert.harding :: Massa Explains Vote Against H.R. 3962
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This is a cop-out (4.00 / 2)
Massa risked torpedoing the most important piece of domestic legislation in a generation beacuse it's not perfect in his opinion.  Bullshit.  

He also voted against the Energy Bill- what's his excuse on that one?

Massa has officially jumped the shark.  


Obviously (0.00 / 0)
Massa was hoping to corner the energy market with all of the hot air he expels and doesn't want to encourage alternative energy sources.  This is a pretty serious phony we've got here.

[ Parent ]
given what he's said in the past and the nature of his district (0.00 / 0)
I'd have been startled if he voted any other way.

You're welcome to complain all you want, but this was 100% predictable.

He's not Maurice Hinchey, and he's not in Hinchey's district (or even Arcuri's). He was elected in large part because of the views and the obstinacy that folks here are complaining about - the latter perhaps most importantly.

I invite everyone complaining here to visit the district and go door-to-door against Massa on this issue.  I'll even let you start easy in Corning and Hornell.  I don't think you'll have a lot of fun, and the folks you find who support removing Massa won't be your friends.


[ Parent ]
In Other Words (1.33 / 3)
Jackasses need to be represented by one of their own kind.

[ Parent ]
insulting the electorate will get you what you deserve (0.00 / 0)
Nothing good.

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Then he should stop being disinegnuous (4.00 / 1)
and admit he's opposing it from the right, not the left.  He's trying to have it both ways.

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he's said the same thing straight through (0.00 / 0)
And I don't think it even boils down to right and left.

Seriously, visit the district.  Live in it for a while.  You might notice a few things work differently than you might expect.

(And okay, I don't live there any more, but I grew up there and my parents are still there.)


[ Parent ]
You are wrong. (4.00 / 3)
His record proves that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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Maybe not from the right but from the side of political cowardice (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
if Massa's opposes the health care bill from the left (0.00 / 0)
then why does it matter that his district is conservative. maybe you can explain?

Follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/SteveinNYC

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because consistency matters too (0.00 / 0)
and changing positions would make him look like just another talker who bends to whatever position his party asks him to take - in a district not especially fond of that party.

Whatever folks may think of Massa's underlying opinions, I don't think "go along to get along with the Democratic Speaker and President" would play well.  To people actually in the district, that would seem a lot more like "cowardice" than it apparently does to Roatti.

The part of this that really has me shaking my head, though, is that pretty much nothing about Massa's votes here is surprising if you've been paying attention.  I'm not sure why the critics sound so surprised.


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It...doesn't (4.00 / 2)
He never said that it did. That came from other people. His letter spells out clear policy reasons for opposing it, the same policy reasons he's said for a year will force him to oppose it.

This is the guy who said - out loud - "I Will Vote Against The Will Of My District" to vote for single payer


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that's a different take from mine (0.00 / 0)
but I think it's compatible because it's not simply a left-right conversation.

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That is bullshit, pure and simple. (4.00 / 1)
Massa has been shouting at the top of his lungs for months that he'll vote for single-payer or a strong Medicare-based public option. The current public option doesn't pay at Medicare rates, which was one of his criteria for supporting it. He didn't. It passed anyway, which I'm sure Massa knew before he voted on it.

Seriously, people who don't know anything about the 29th District really shouldn't make assumption on Massa being "weak kneed," or that he's somehow telling us one thing and his district another, or any similar crap like that. For Massa it would have been a shift to the right to vote FOR the healthcare bill.

Look, I'm happy as hell that it's through the house, but people need to recognize that it's not the end of the world if we got 220 votes instead of 222.  


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Oh Really? (2.67 / 3)
It is "hard to disagree" with Massa's claim about mandates being unconstitutional?  This is a talking-point promoted by Federalist Society constitutional "scholars" but is not taken seriously by anybody else.  And is it "hard to disagree" with the claim that the premium rates of the public option will "match private insurance"?  The whole point of the public option is that its lack of overhead and non-profit status will enable it to offer lower premiums than private insurers - does Massa have some secret information that says otherwise.  In any event, the very existence of the public option offers competition in many states where private insurers currently have virtual monopolies.  Is it "hard to disagree" with his argument that private insurers should be allowed to write plans across state lines, even though all insurance is regulated at the state level, there is no regulation in place for interstate sales of insurance, and implementing a federal system of regulating interstate insurance sales would be a massive undertaking far beyond anything anyone, including Massa, has contemplated.  The interstate sales argument is one of the right-wing's favorite panacea, so it is very revealing to see it being embraced by this darling of so-called "progressives".  This guy is shaping up as a big-time fraud.

where were all of you haters (4.00 / 3)
before this vote happened? Did you attend any of the town hall meetings he held over the summer? Did you call or email to ask for a yes vote?

Massa did EXACTLY what he said he would do. He even signed a pledge that the netroots pushed for promising a no vote from the progressive caucus if there wasn't a robust public option - how come you aren't complaining about all of the other cosigners who caved and went along with a weak public option?

You can be complain about this all you like, but I live in the district and not only has Massa delivered, but he's done exactly what he said he would do all along.


This is nonsense. (4.00 / 2)
A lot of representatives had to swallow some reservations about a terrible abortion provision that is much worse than the stuff Massa outlined here.  They did it because this is a once in a generation chance.  They did it to save the lives of millions of Americans.

I'm sick of Massa's voting behavior. He doesn't understand that you hold your vote back when it could honestly change the bill, but you don't do it when the manager's amendments are already integrated and the damn thing is on the floor.

Health care reform is a big project, and change will occur in steps.  But none of it can ever happen if this bill gets sunk for the sake of an ideal unreachable at this time.

I know Eric loves to muse about his noble reasons for things, but when it all comes down to it, he has only one thing that makes a difference- his vote.  The effect of his vote was to kill healthcare reform.  The final tally does not account for his progressive regrets.

I'll say it again- Eric Massa needs a big helping of political maturity and soon.


did you need his vote? (0.00 / 0)
I didn't think so.

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Eric? Is that you? (2.67 / 3)
His vote, like all others, matters.  Whether it is number 218 or not.  It can't be fun defending his hodgepodge of an excuse for standing against reform, but to turn around and call it all moot is silly in the extreme.

It's his underlying thinking that bothers me most.  On the two big issues before Congress, Massa has been one of the only people who are willing to torpedo any possible gain for the sake of a perfection we cannot have.

It's a good thing I don't think like Eric Massa, or I'd be ditching him (the good) and siding with the Republicans (Reed) because I can't have the perfect in 2010.



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One More Point (4.00 / 1)
REAL Health Care Reform is the ENTIRE REASON Massa wanted to run for Congress.

Why would he compromise on that?

It was during this time that Massa first felt the tug toward being a legislator. One day, he recalls, a man whose wife he was representing asked if Massa could check with the doctors whether they could switch the regimen from every three weeks to every five. The reason: to avoid piling on credit-card debt.

"Now this is what our medical system in this country has taken us to," Massa says, his voice rising and his hands talking too, as they often do when he gets on a roll. "A husband and a wife gamble with the quality of health care based on how far into debt they can go."

- Money Magazine, 2006

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