About

The Albany Project seeks to return New York State Government to its rightful owners - the people.

New York Blogwire

This belongs to you. Take it back...

The "evil eight" -- plus 30

by: Dan Jacoby

Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 15:05:08 PM EST

All 30 Republicans voted no on marriage equality, as did eight Democrats: Addabbo, Aubertine, Diaz, Huntley, Kruger, Monserrate, Onorato, and Stachowski.

Now we know who the targets are next year.

Dan Jacoby :: The "evil eight" -- plus 30

Tags: Marriage Equality, (All Tags)

Print Friendly View

Send As Email

The "evil eight" -- plus 30 | 24 comments

Amen (4.00 / 4)

The silver lining of today's vote is we have a record now of who supports discrimination. We will pound the pavement in these districts and make sure all of their constituents know the type of Senator they have.

by: BingChester @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:10:06 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

So who among the evil 8 (0.00 / 0)

has declared primary challengers (that support marriage equality, I should add).

by: Clarknt67 @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:14:52 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Possible challengers (0.00 / 0)

Among the Democrats, it's virtually certain that Monserrate will be ousted by Jose Peralta, Sen. Onorato will have a challenger (details to be released later), and Joe Addabbo may have to face a young, bright, personable Republican (which could explain why he reneged on a campaign promise he made).

I think Aubertine and Kruger are safe. Huntley is probably safe, merely because there aren't many people in that district who knows what the state Senate is.

Diaz may be safe, if only because his son is the county leader, but there will probably be a challenge.

Stachowski is, I believe, the longest-serving Democrat in the state Senate. I don't know that part of the state, so I don't know if there is a potential challenger.

by: Dan Jacoby @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:31:27 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Thanks, I'm still processing this (0.00 / 0)

loss. When I regroup, you can bet I'll be seeing who's vulnerable, but Dem & GOP, and work to move the ball forward for next years vote.

by: Clarknt67 @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:37:56 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Absolutely (0.00 / 0)

We all need a breather after the heartbreaking vote but then we have to get back in the game and challenge these bastards and pound the pavement in the hearts of their districts.

by: BingChester @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:40:23 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Onorato challenger (4.00 / 1)

I have heard that either Mike Gianaris or Eric Gioia might challenge Onorato, either of whom would make me very happy. I proudly voted for Gioia for NYC Public Advocate, and would love to help him oust George Onorato next year. Anybody know of any possible truth to this?

by: Yorkvillian @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:41:49 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Rumors (4.00 / 1)

I've heard rumors that Stachowski will get primaried, but not over the ME vote. He narrowly escaped losing in 2008 and took a lot of DSCC resources to hold on to his seat, so I'm sure the party structure isn't thrilled with him. Then he got sacrificed in January so Kruger could be Finance Committee chair, and his whole election had been about keeping him in office meant the Buffalo area would have this all-powerful committee chair. When that went up in smoke, I think people started to think about whether or not his seniority was any advantage to the area after all.

by: Historical Pessimist @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 21:45:53 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

I've heard retirement, not primary (4.00 / 1)

The problem with this one is that this district includes effectively all of Steve Pigeon's power base, and quite frankly I'd rather have a Republican who votes against every issue I believe in than a Pigeon-"Democrat" who is so corrupt that it makes me bleed from my eyeballs, and I think there is a good chance that anyone who replaces Stach will be the latter.

by: Amherst Guy @ Thu Dec 03, 2009 at 06:03:16 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Addabbo was threatened by the churches (4.00 / 1)

he told me personally back in February he was a yes vote. I tried to track him down this afternoon, but someone in the county Dems told me he decided to vote no after last month's election when his former chief of staff was badly defeated in the race for his old council seat. The churches in the district threatened Joe and since his political base are Italian Catholics in conservative Howard Beach, the rest is history.

by: nrafter530 @ Thu Dec 03, 2009 at 00:45:11 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Hm (0.00 / 0)

Addabbo shouldn't have gotten spooked by Gulluscio's loss; Frank Gulluscio was not a good candidate, and he was up against a very personable young Republican incumbent.

Speaking of the personable young Republican, there is a possibility that he will challenge Addabbo next year -- and he's also Catholic.

by: Dan Jacoby @ Thu Dec 03, 2009 at 03:01:13 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

That possibility (0.00 / 0)

was entirely based on his vote on this bill.

by: nrafter530 @ Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 07:06:12 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

very disappointed (0.00 / 0)

Frankly I hoped as one of senators said that you would beat Jersey today. At least there is plenty to build on if that is any consolation, which I doubt it is.

by: Hopeful in NJ @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:15:04 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Corrected final vote: (0.00 / 0)

Yea Eric Adams (D)
Nay Joe Addabbo (D)
Nay Jim Alesi (R)
Nay Darrel Aubertine (D)
Nay John Bonacic (R)
Yea Neil Breslin (D)
Nay John DeFrancisco (D)
Nay Ruben Diaz Sr. (D)
Yea Martin Malave Dilan (D)
Yea Tom Duane (D)
Yea Pedro Esapda Jr. (D)
Nay Hugh Farley (R)
John Flanagan (R)
Yes Brian Foley (D)
No Chuck Fuschillo (R)
No Marty Golden (R)
No Joe Griffo (R)
No Kemp Hannon (R)
Yes Ruth Hassell-Thompson (D)
No Shirley Huntley (D)
Yes Craig Johnson (D)
No Owen Johnson (R)
Yes Jeff Klein (D)
Yes Liz Krueger (D)
No Carl Kruger (D)
No Andrew Lanza (R)
No Bill Larkin (R)
No Ken LaValle (R)
No Vincent Leibell (R)
No Tom Libous (R)
No Betty Little (R)
No Carl Marcellino (R)
No George Maziarz (R)
No Roy McDonald (R)
No Hiram Monserrate (D)
Yes Velmanette Montgomery (D)
No Tom Morahan (R)
No Mike Nozzolio (R)
No George Onorato (D)
Yes Suzi Oppenheimer (D)
No Frank Padavan (R)
Yes Kevin Parker (D)
Yes Bill Perkins (D)
No Mike Ranzenhofer (R)
No Joe Robach
No Saland
Yes John Sampson
Yes Diane Savino
Yes Eric Schneiderman
Yes Jose M. Serrano
No Jim Seward
No Dan Skelos
Yes Malcolm Smith
Yes Daniel Squadron
No Bill Stachowski
Yes Toby Ann Stavisky
Yes Andrea Stewart-Cousins

We've got some work ahead of us.

by: NYBri @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:19:17 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

If marriage equality is your issue - (0.00 / 0)

There were 30 Republican no votes. That is all of them. Each and every Republican, no exceptions.

There's your target.

by: jmcbride @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 20:39:05 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

True (4.00 / 1)

BUT, ousting these clowns is way over due. Some use the excuse to vote FOR discrimination because they don't want to lose their seat by standing up for what's right. The only time people lose their seat over such issues is when they vote against equality - it's time to show them the door.

Tax the Church.

by: furiousdee @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 21:09:02 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

So bring 'em on. (4.00 / 2)

30's a big lot, how about we narrow it down to the 5 or 10 most vulnerable GOPers?

by: Clarknt67 @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 22:43:07 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Yes and no John... (4.00 / 1)

I would rather address the seven senators who hail from Democratic districts who voted against a Democratic bill. I believe in making sure our own house is clean before addressing the rundown house that is the state Republican Party. We need to tear them down, but before we do that, we need to primary these seven who think they can get away with voting against Democrats in Democratic districts.

by: robert.harding @ Thu Dec 03, 2009 at 03:55:33 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Here here! (4.00 / 1)

by: BingChester @ Thu Dec 03, 2009 at 04:06:19 AM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Disgraceful (4.00 / 2)

The "Evil 8" are a disgrace to the Democratic Party and all New York progressives. Help defeat them by donating to www.ReBootNY.com
Let's start electing real progressives to state government - this means you Kruger...#1 on my list.

Tax the Church.

by: furiousdee @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 21:05:45 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

My full comment is online (4.00 / 2)

It is available on my website at http://www.danjacoby.com/politics/columns/writing/l_57_evil_eight_plus_30.htm.

by: Dan Jacoby @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 21:32:40 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

The ignorance (0.00 / 0)

shown by some of the commenters (on CapCom, etc.) is just so very frustrating. I find it hard to believe people can be so stupid on this issue. The ingrained hatred really is unfathomable to me...

by: Jrathman @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 21:53:13 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

DeFrancisco (4.00 / 2)

DeFrancisco will be out. I don't care who they field, I'm running against him next year. No longer am I going to let a person represent a people he does not treat the same as the rest. If I go alone, I go alone. If I go with others, I'll go with others. No longer will the gay community in CNY tolerate it. Let me know if you're interested, I'm going to need help.

by: iletired @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 22:34:10 PM UTC

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

If you're serious (0.00 / 0)

I'm sure you'll get some help from TAP folks.

by: Jrathman @ Wed Dec 02, 2009 at 22:39:53 PM UTC

[ Parent ]

by: you @ soon

To post this comment click here:

Otherwise click cancel.

Please (4.00 / 1)