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NY-Comp: Should Spitzer Run?

by: robert.harding

Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 17:02:05 PM EST


Go back in time to early 2007. Alan Hevesi was re-elected as comptroller, but wasn't about to serve out that term. That is when chaos ensued and Assemblyman Tom DiNapoli was picked by his colleagues to become the next comptroller.

Who considered DiNapoli unqualified for the post and railed against the appointment? None other than the governor at the time, Eliot Spitzer.

So today's piece in the New York Post should come as no surprise. Spitzer is seriously considering a run for comptroller.

Spitzer has in recent weeks had discussions with some Democratic donors and insiders about the position currently held by Tom DiNapoli.

DiNapoli, a former assemblyman from Long Island, was appointed comptroller in 2007 after his predecessor, Alan Hevesi, pleaded guilty to using state workers as chauffeurs for his wife.

A Democrat who spoke with Spitzer said, "He's seriously thinking about it."

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It's unclear whether a Spitzer candidacy would rely on a Democratic donor base, or if the former governor -- whose family is wealthy -- is thinking of pouring his own dough into a campaign.

It is also unclear if he would challenge DiNapoli in a primary, or if he's considering running as an independent.

But Spitzer has privately made clear for several months that he sees DiNapoli as vulnerable -- a view shared by many Democrats.

DiNapoli is vulnerable. His poll numbers aren't very good and with the right primary opponent (or even a general election foe), he will lose.

It would also give Spitzer the ultimate payback. Spitzer was dealt a blow early in his administration when DiNapoli was picked to become comptroller by the Assembly, a body that DiNapoli once served in and made plenty of friends in. So his appointment came as no surprise. His friends voted for him and Spitzer lost. Spitzer believed then what he still believes now: DiNapoli is unqualified for the job.

Spitzer comes with some upside. He has the name recognition (DiNapoli doesn't), the money (DiNapoli wouldn't have nearly as much as Spitzer would) and the knowledge (DiNapoli has done alright in his role, but Spitzer would be a much better comptroller) needed for the post. The downside is obvious: He is a man who has a scandal that is nearly two years old. It was a scandal that you could argue contributed to more dysfunction in a state that doesn't need anymore.

But the possibility of Spitzer being on the ticket is certainly intriguing. Especially if Andrew Cuomo decides to run for governor. That would create a super ticket for Democrats in 2010 and ensure that this blue state remains as such come January 2011.

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I believe I speak for a great many New Yorkers when I say... (4.00 / 1)
...WTF.

agreed (4.00 / 1)
And it's not just the scandal that took him down.  I kinda wanted him to be governor because he seemed crazy enough to take on impossible challenges, but he did so kinda, well, crazily.

I'd love to see a primary, though, given the history of the selection.


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yup (0.00 / 0)
Although, I would like to take this opportunity to nominate him as rich-guy celebrity-lawyer-with-nothing-better-to-do in charge of suing Governor Paterson for a completely illegal dSGEIS on hydrofracking for natural gas extraction....

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If he ran for AG again, (0.00 / 0)
I'd consider voting for him, maybe. I mean, probably not, but his faults were personal and not professional, and that does mean something. And he was a kickass AG. so maybe on a 1-10 scale, he gets a 2 or 3 from me for AG.

But Comptroller? 0.


I don't care... (4.00 / 1)
how many bimbos Eliot jumps into the sack with...as long as he does the job he is elected to do when he is on the state's dime......or die trying..

I will vote for him (0.00 / 0)
And I will work for him. Spitzer should have resigned only if Larry Craig and David Vitter did the same. His demise what a Rovain rat-fuck, all the way.

Run, Eliot; run.  


Spitzer is tainted by his scandal, but given what we've seen elsewhere (0.00 / 0)
his sin isn't rare.

What concerns me is his inability as governor to work at all with the legislature - he was in constant shouting match with Bruno and other legislators.

Makes me wonder whether his role as comptroller would be as dysfunctional.  Another wrinkle in this speculation is that Bill Thompson might run for comptroller to keep his hand in the state government until the 2013 for NYC mayor.

Given the great work Spitzer did on Wall Street, I'd love to see him with a federal appointment to ride ass on Wall Street which needs it.  Spitzer's experience is invaluable.


HylasBrook


Not buying the tainted by scandal argument... (4.00 / 1)
When every news network wants to know what he thinks about the financial institutions he once pushed around. This is a guy whose strengths far outweigh his weaknesses. His scandal was a personal one and involved zero taxpayer dollars. But in the age of our obsession with sex scandals, he had no other choice. A governor sleeping with prostitutes doesn't have a great ring to it.

As for his inability to work with the Legislature, I have two things to say about that.

(1) He had one year working with the Legislature. To me, that is hardly a good sample.

(2) Do you really want someone who works with this Legislature? The same Legislature we have called dysfunctional over and over again and have criticized for their lack of change (except when it comes to their hunger for leadership positions and money)? I want a strong person who will take them on. That's what the Legislature needs.

I agree that someone like Bill Thompson would be better for the position, but having him back in state government again would mean good things. A lot of what he has said over the years is true and a lot of what he knows is useful. He would certainly do more for this state serving as comptroller than telling us what's wrong with the financial industry via his column in Slate.


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Good point with reason #1, Working/Fighting with the NYS State (0.00 / 0)
Legislature is like fighting a rabid pit bull.

HylasBrook

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Scandals and Thompson (0.00 / 0)
While a "governor sleeping with prostitutes" is pretty bad, at least when it's a northern, Democratic governor, it appears that a southern Republican senator can sleep with prostitutes and there's no problem with that.

Seriously, if Spitzer had been able to "work with the legislature," would he have had to resign?  I'm not sure.  Of course, nobody with even a streak of decency could work with this legislature, so...

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Regarding Thompson, before I vote for him he needs to answer the claim that his performance as the NYC Comptroller was way below par.  Given that the claim was launched by Michael Bloomberg at a time when Thompson was challenging Bloomberg, I'm open to an explanation -- but that explanation has to come first.


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I'd vote for him, but (0.00 / 0)
it feels too early. I'm curious how you justify claiming Spitzer would be a boon or create a "super ticket"

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Can I ask a question? (0.00 / 0)
Not to pry into his personal life, but do we really think Silda is comfortable with this?  There's something that kind of bothers me about the fact that a guy who very recently had a political scandal that probably greatly hurt his family is now talking about getting back into the same business where the problems came from.

I'd vote for him too (0.00 / 0)
With no disrespect to the current comptroller, since I have no up close view of how he does the job.  Every so often I hear from through the media, an audit here or there, but.....

In the worst economic situation for our state, why hasn't DiNapoli taken on the legislature's failures to deal with our mess?  Why? Could it be because they are his friends?  His former colleagues?  Why did he fail to do that?  Why hasn't he been effective?

I did not want Spiter to step down as governor.  I always sensed he needed to do it for reparation, knowing he let his wife, children and fellow citizens down.   Our society doesn't give people many options for doing that.

I'd like to see him use his mouth and intellect to push New York out of this slump.

I don't want to sound like I don't see his warts and failings.  I just think his abilities and his need to use them are very useful for us New Yorkers.


"Personal Scandal" My A** (0.00 / 0)
I'll start by saying that I really think Spitzer could have been an awesome governor, was an awesome AG, and could have been a fabulous comptroller.  But paying women to sleep with you (prostitution) is a crime in most places in this country.  And inducing women to cross state lines to engage in prostitution is a Federal crime.

If he ran for anything, whoever runs against him would have a field day arguing how "in these difficult economic times, where leadership is scarce, we need leaders with the conviction and character to do right by New Yorkers."

It would be a nightmare.

If you don't know where you're going
Any road will take you there.


you were clear, El Loco (0.00 / 0)

Here's what I'm thinking.

Our society needs better public rituals for public offenses.  Right now we only leave it to the media.

Agreed, we have laws about the conduct.

We have the potential for better public rituals.  I'm a Catholic and learned a lot about the Jewish understanding of law (from a former DA in Albany and a dean at BC Law).  And the Unitarians are the ones who host people with new ideas all around the country, especially the ones denied opportunities by other groups.

My examples are religious, but there are MANY good sources in New York.

Maybe the best thing to do is stop making the media our moral standard.  They are selling papers and clicks.

We have some good resources in NY for finding a better way.  It's a crime that we don't use them.

To answer an earlier poster, I'm sure he's had many conversations with his wife and daughters.  

I'd like to see him have a conversation with New York.


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Yup-- it's illegal (0.00 / 0)
But, because the johns are never prosecuted, people seem to forget that, and think it is just, you know, normal or something.

My father always used to say that the way to really control prostitution is to just prosecute johns-- to the full extent of the law, and very publicly.


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While the Johns are a problem... (0.00 / 0)
They aren't the ones making money off of it. When rich men like Spitzer are paying tens of thousands of dollars (because they can), someone is profiting from that. In Spitzer's case, it was his girl of choice (who didn't mind making money in that position AND who tried to profit from her exposure after the fall of Spitzer) and the madam.

So yes, soliciting a prostitute is illegal. It is wrong and it was very wrong for Spitzer to do it. But providing the service is a far worse crime and the men and women who profit from it should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.  


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She's an anomolie (0.00 / 0)
It is a very unusual prostitute that makes much money.  Many turn out to be virtual slaves to their procurers.  Others are simply slaves to their drug habit.  Most are young, some are very young.

The situation is, in fact, very analogous to the Mexican drug trade, with a lot of poor, desperate people caught in the positions that are most typically prosecuted.  My Dad's point was not that being a john is "worse" than being a ho-- it was that rounding up the same sorry type of streetwalkers repetitively did very little, if anything, to stop the practice. The procurers just went out and found new desperate women to take their place.  Like drugs, the answer is to stem the demand.  Ideally, through treatment.  Which is part of why a national health plan should include full mental health benefits for all.

Barring a system that treats those who feel entitled to exploit women as mentally unstable..... serious prosecution might provide some deterrent.  Currently, people get wrist-slaps, if anything.


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