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NY-Sen: Gillibrand wows Black/Puerto Rican legislators' conference

by: devtob

Sun Feb 14, 2010 at 19:57:37 PM EST


Harold Ford of Tennessee, Merrill Lynch, the DLC, NBC and the Park Avenue Regency will be giving the keynote address to the 39th annual Legislative Conference of the New York State Association of Black and Puerto Rican Legislators tonight.

He would be wise not to give a campaign speech about how NY needs an "independent Democrat" like him in the U.S. Senate, instead of a real Democrat like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand.

Gillibrand, unlike Ford, has been at the conference since early Saturday. This afternoon she hosted a brunch attended by about 400 people, gave a strong speech, and stayed around for almost an hour for photographs with supporters.

Details, below.

devtob :: NY-Sen: Gillibrand wows Black/Puerto Rican legislators' conference
After remarks by Assemblyman Carl Heastie, chairman of the Bronx Democratic Committee, and Congresswoman Yvette Clarke, NY-11, Gov. David Paterson introduced Gillibrand by recalling why he appointed her.

Senator Gillibrand represents a region of this state that contains 40 percent of its population, but often is ignored.

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The upstate areas have always complained that they are left out of government services, ignored by government, and often not even thought of when decisions are made.

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So this why, when I had a number of great candidates, I chose someone from a region that hadn't had an elected Senator in over 60 years, hadn't even had an appointed Senator in over 40 years.

And now that region has a voice, not because I'm from that region, but I learned about what happens when government and the franchise leave people out.

In addition, there are now 17 women in the United States Senate. The female population of this country is at least 50 percent. So we are still one-third the way toward equity in the U.S. Senate.

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So it was my proud honor, on January 24, 2009, to appoint Kirsten Gilliband to the United States Senate.

And in this first year, ... she has come to our communities, she has learned about the issues she may not have learned about before, she has expanded her horizons, she is representing all the people, she cares about the people of New York, she is standing up, when we haven't gotten people to stand up on some of these issues, for the first time ever.

So we want to see her come back to the Senate for another term when we elect her Senator from the state of New York.

Paterson has some political problems of his own, but appointing the excellent Kirsten Gillibrand to the Senate is less and less one of them.

Gillibrand's speech was the best I've heard her give -- forceful and articulate, without notes, TelePrompters or reminders written on her hand.

Some highlights:

These are hard times, make no mistake about it, things are not better.

We may see the stock market rise, we may see big bonuses being given, but we do not see jobs being created.

We see 10-percent-plus unemployment, but real unemployment is far higher, it's 16, 20 percent.

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My grandparents on either side did not have an education. But because of good (Rockefeller) policies, ... my parents got to go to college, because they went to college, I went to college, because they had every opportunity to get educated, I had every opportunity to get educated.

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I will be your fighter. I will fight for you as hard as I fight for my own children.

I will fight for you in every battle we have in Washington because you deserve a voice.

I am going to be the voice of the voiceless. That is the Senator I want to be, that is the Senator I am.

Gillibrand mentioned that she had attended the conference's three-hour church service this morning (while Ford was doing his "political insider" thing on Meet the Press).

And she then spoke of the parable of the talents, commending people in elected public service for using their talents "to help people, to be a voice for change, and we have a lot of work to do, we gotta turn around the unemployment rate."

After her speech and photos with all who wanted one, I caught up with Gillibrand for some exclusive quote:

It's been an amazing weekend. I've been meeting with elected leaders from all across our great state. We've been talking about the tough issues that we're facing like high unemployment rate, lack of access to capital for small businesses, communities that are plagued with very tough environmental challenges which create health challenges like asthma, ... so we're working really hard to try to turn things around for all the communities in New York.

(So what's the response been like at the conference?) Very good. People want leadership, they want a strong voice that's gonna fight for them, and that's what I'm committed to doing.

Though Gillibrand is white and from upstate, it's clear why she has earned the endorsements of many black and Hispanic leaders from the city.

They recognize that she is working hard for their communities, as she does for all New Yorkers, from Buffalo to Montauk.

So if Ford disses Gillibrand as a "parakeet" who is beholden to Democratic "Washington and Albany political bosses" (like President Obama, who Gillibrand supports a lot more than Ford would) tonight, most in attendance will sit on their hands, and some may boo.

As will most voters, in the primary and/or the general this year.

FWIW, Ford may have the keynote tonight, but I saw literally no evidence of the Ford campaign at the conference hotel -- no volunteers, no lit, no reception, no buttons/signs, nothing at all.    

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Ford's campaign seems to consist solely of (4.00 / 3)
puff pieces in the NYC media, phony listening tours, and nasty slurs from his LIEberman flack.

He's obviously not ready for prime time.  


Ford On Meet The Press (4.00 / 2)
Got a little nervous with Gregory's questions and if you get a chance it's repeated tonight on MSNBC but I'm not sure of the time. Also, MSNBC has suspended Ford.  

Thanks for the diary, devtob! (4.00 / 3)
One of the things that people are starting to learn about Kirsten Gillibrand is that she's smart, she's a great campaigner, and she works hard for her constituents. Ford (and possibly Zuckerman) and their little circle down in Manhattan haven't got a clue.  If they did, they'd never make the mistake they're making.    

We already knew those things.... (4.00 / 4)
She will out campaign anybody.  

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Gotta watch Capital News 9 locally (4.00 / 3)
All weekend they kept talking about how Ford was reaching out to people to strengthen his position for a run by speaking at this conference.  They also went out of their way to mention that the Gov was there as well.  Never once mentioned that Gillibrand was spending more time at these Caucus Weekend events than Ford was.

Let's keep an eye on them and make sure they don't forget about her...


Well the headline should have been Gillibrand loses to Ford (0.00 / 0)
What is missing from your diary is the simple fact the at the Gala -- the most important speechifying part of the Caucus -- people STAYED and listened to Harold Ford and were VERY enthusiastic in their applause/support of him throughout his speech.

Frankly -- Gillibrand's decision to have Paterson frame her pep or should I say PEF rally was typically off-key and tone deaf.  Paterson brags at a Caucus event that he appointed her so that she can represent people from Upstate?  Oh yeah that is what Caucus event participants REALLY wanted to hear!  How about the simple fact that Paterson nominated her to the Senate despite the fact that Gillibrand had one of the most vicious anti-immigrant voting records in the House.  Yeah remind me of that when you say that you put her in there to represent Upstate and not members of the Caucus.

Then she goes on and on about some faux lack of education roots -- expecting us to forget that she's a scion from Albany's political elite....its a bunch of hooey or Rutnik......sheeeessssss give me a break.

Weird -- and the odd part is that she expects us to not notice that she still has not hired a person of color in a significant policy position on her staff....but then again what do you expect from a D'Amato intern who's pops is a chum of Pataki.  

That's New York -- rank hypocrisy -- while the reality is that this state continues to be a place in which there is a rising gap between the rich and the poor. Gillibrand is not going to do anything to erase that problem nor is Schumer ...... might as well have a friend of Pataki or D'Amato in the Senate -- oh wait....

The reality is that WE deserve someone better than Gillibrand and we'll never take Albany much less New York  back with her as our Senator.


Sounds like sour grapes to me, ElPocho, (4.00 / 4)
though I admit I wasn't there.

If you think that we deserve better than Gillibrand, and that Ford is the answer, then it is abundantly clear that you are really in favor of the rising gap between the rich and poor that you claim to denounce.

Maybe you should draft Monserrate to "represent" the caucus as our Senator. The last thing anyone could accuse him of is being an elitist.

 


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Sour Grapes? (0.00 / 0)
How about simple xenophobia on your part -- your decision to somehow conflate Monserrate with what I wrote is so revealing about what seems to be your real agenda.  I suppose this means that in addition to supporting Kirsten for Senator you are campaigning to have Steve Levy elected as our next Governor.

I am not saying that Ford is the answer -- LOL -- look at what I've written in TAP; hint I kept calling him Edsel.  Those comments should have made you realize that I have great doubts about his viability as a candidate in New York.

I do not in any way, shape or form think Gillibrand should have been appointed as a replacement for Hillary.  Kirsten had a grotesque voting record on immigration during her tenure in the House.  She refuses to hire a person of color for her staff.  Last but not least, Paterson made a stupid choice when he appointed her -- but what else can you expect from DP.....he appoints a scion because he's from the same clubby world.

Last but not least -- Albany and New York will never be cleaned up/reformed as long as racial and ethnic divisions dominate our politics.  We are a state in which economic inequity is growing larger and larger -- public higher education is under attack -- etc. Within that context -- Kirsten is not the answer -- just like Ford is not the answer.   So IMO before you start acting like she's the second coming of Joan of Arc -- look at her record and performance.   She's pulled some cynically slick moves and acted in cahoots with sleazy New York pols.  Last but not least, she's politically and philosophically connected to Pataki and D'Amato.  I'd like to remind you that they did their level best to subvert our state by trying, at a policy level,  to make us resemble a third world country or Mississippi -- instead of the Empire State.

IMO given the above - you gotta be kidding me that Kirsten is somehow the best that New York has to offer.



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Who should have been appointed to the seat? (4.00 / 2)
Hmm?

Who is the best that New York has to offer?

I don't think you know anything about agendas, including your own. You seem confused about philosophy and ideology.

I would no more campaign for Steve Levy than I would for Harold Ford. I can't imagine how you would have come to that conclusion.

I have looked at Kirsten's record and her performance. And I know the woman personally. That would be how I arrived at my opinion that she is an outstanding Senator and has set a standard of excellence for others to follow.

As far as her "political and philosophical connections to Pataki and D'Amato", I'm not quite sure how you could possibly come to that conclusion. But what do I know? Perhaps you were traveling abroad extensively last year and didn't have access to accurate information.

It is true that "racial and ethnic divisions" have become a major force in the politics of the state, especially in the Senate. The Latinos in the Senate have proven themselves the biggest perpetrators of racism the Senate has ever seen, and it has long interfered with the functioning of that body.

I'm not suggesting that's the only reason for the dysfunction--far from it. But it is an unnecessary addition to the mayhem, and detracts the focus from significant issues. Kinda makes me wonder about their agenda.

If you are looking only for racial sleights, I'm afraid that is all you will find.  


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WTF? (4.00 / 5)
How about simple xenophobia on your part

What the hell was remotely xenophobic about that comment? paranoid much?  


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You might want to correct your facts. (4.00 / 5)
Being a lawyer from the Albany area who'd never held an office before 2006 doesn't make you "part of Albany's political elite." And still nobody can muster a single piece of evidence for this claimed "vicious anti-immigrant voting record."  

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LOL (0.00 / 0)
She's a scion and her family is been part of the Albany political elite for cripes sakes her grandmother was Dorothea "Polly" Noonan who was a "confidant" of Erastus Corning.

Her dad is Doug Rutnik who's a political pal of D'Amato and Pataki.....


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Her grandmother was the secretary to the mayor of Albany, 30 years ago. (4.00 / 3)
In your world that translates to having a chokehold on the elite power centers of New York statewide politics? Wow.

"a political pal of D'Amato and Pataki" = your assertion unsupported by facts.

By the way, do you know what the word "scion" means? And I notice you're running like hell from providing evidence about that "vicious anti-immigrant voting record."


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My grandmothers... (4.00 / 2)
were both immigrants.  When people try to judge me in reference to them and their work (seamstress, child sweatshop worker, railroad cleaning lady), I sure do think it is unfair.

I similarly find it unfair to assume that I approve of the politics of the people my blood-relatives are friends with, or work for... in this free country, we don't have noble families with Shakespearian alliances... we have free choice of political affiliation for all adults.  You don't even have to be the same party as your spouse.


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My grandfather (4.00 / 5)
was a member of Mussolini's Gestapo...doesn't make me a fascist.  

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Presumably you mean the Black Shirts (0.00 / 0)
or whatever Mussolini called his police/secret service.

It was certainly not Gestapo.


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yeah the squadristi (4.00 / 2)
I was using gestapo was an adjective.  

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That would be OVRA (4.00 / 1)
It stands for "Organization for Vigilance and Repression of Anti-Fascism," and was Mussolini's secret police.  (Note:  In the original Italian, it's still OVRA, standing for "Organizzazione per la Vigilanza e la Repressione dell'Antifascismo.")

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Ummm.... (4.00 / 4)
A goodly contingent of the Caucus are actually FROM upstate cities.... and are representing some of the poorest and least cared-about neighborhoods in NY.

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Interesting Elizabeth Benjamin described response (4.00 / 3)
to Ford as polite, not at all enthusiastic. Two reports, two perspectives.  

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And what is up with Vielkind? (4.00 / 3)
What did Gillibrand ever do to him to warrant his negative bias? Other accounts of the event say that Ford was received "politely", but not necessarily enthusiastically, but that Kirsten was warmly received and given vigorous applause.

Vielkind says exactly the opposite in today's TU. Makes one wonder which dinner he attended.  


I was at the Gala Dinner (0.00 / 0)
I am NOT for either candidate -- but Ford was warmly and enthusiastically received.  Kirsten got the polite reception.....

We'll see how all of this shakes out by the time Somos rolls around.  


It's all in the interpretation. (4.00 / 2)
Just sayin'.

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LOL (0.00 / 0)
I guess the Strom Thurmond comment touched a raw nerve.

BTW I'm Hispanic -- which is a culture and not a "race" so leftygurl does that make me a person of color?

But I digress -- Ok let's start with Gillibrand's website from when she was a mere House member -- and a strong Blue Dog; BTW she took all this down when she was about to be nominated by DP:

In Congress, Congresswoman Gillibrand has been a firm opponent of any proposal that would give amnesty to illegal aliens.  The federal government must provide the necessary resources to secure our borders, which is critical for America's economic and national security.

She strongly supports legislation that would significantly increase the number of border patrol agents and place sophisticated technology along the Southern border to catch human and drug smugglers.

Congresswoman Gillibrand authored and passed an amendment that will prevent employers who have hired illegal aliens from receiving federal contracts.

In addition, Congresswoman Gillibrand believes English should be made the official language of the United States and she opposes providing non-emergency taxpayer benefits to illegal aliens.

Now those positions are almost identical to those espoused by Tancredo.

Hey let's not forget that great El Diario front page:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com...

Oh don't forget this from the newspaper of record:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01...

But my favorite is this article from the American Conservative Magazine -- http://www.amconmag.com/articl... in which Gillibrand is described as not being vulnerable to a Republican challenge since she basically agrees with most of their positions.  Now leftygurl if you are just a tad to the left of Madame Chenault -- I guess that makes you a lefty -- but leagues and light years to the right of Mercedes Sosa.

BTW "The reports of my attempting to secure a spot working for Gillibrand are greatly exaggerated."  The thought of working for her would never have crossed my mind; so no I'm not some thwarted non-sinicured person who's pinning for a job with Kristen.  BTW -- that thought brings the following G&S lyric:

And I never thought of thinking for myself at all
I thought so little, they rewarded me
By making me the Ruler of the Queen's Navy

IMO that trait is a basic qualification for working with Gillibrand -- trust me I will not be passing petitions for her.

So in closing -- I guess it is a matter of interpretation and in many ways it is all for naught -- as I learned so many years ago:Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur - The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived! Hey she's pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.....so

GO LEFTY'S GO -- but don't whine when people complain that she's not progressive and anti-immigrant.  

IMO -- we need to look on the bright side of her candidacy and possible reelection.  

I'm confident Kirsten will work with the NRA to ensure that we'll be able to pack firearms just like they do in enlightened states like Texas -- where folks can carry concealed weapons just like it says in the Second Amendment.



Does being Hispanic make you a person of color? (4.00 / 2)
I don't know. You tell me. You're the one who's carrying on about it, and calling everybody xenophobes.

And you're right, I'm very sure that the woman of color on Gillibrand's staff does not have "a really serious policy position in DC".

Those who do are called SENATORS.  


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Oh thanks for the (0.00 / 0)
patronizingly clever retorts.   First you accuse me of not being a person of color and then become offended when I answer your question.  Second -- choose your metaphor -- I wasn't born yesterday -- just fell off of a turnip truck etc. -- my question is simply about her key staffers -- do they reflect the diversity of New York?  And the answer is _______.  Actually we both know the answer - and it is nope.

My point in all of this is that Kirsten is not a progressive politician....and all the rhetorical sturm and drang to cover up her lack of liberal bona fides reminds me how good the Ronnie Reagan brainwashing machine worked.

Do you think a progressive:

Interns for Alfonse D'Amato?  BTW what was really peculiar about the formal announcement was the presence of Al D'Amato.  I never could figure out why that happened -- my working hypothesis is that her innerTracy Flick still needed D'Amato's approval.  In other words, it was odd by several measures that when Paterson announces he's chosen you as a replacement for Hillary -- Kirsten gave Al D'Amato a starring role   Now that was certainly a not so subtle message that she's way to the right of Hillary.

Kirsten held anti-immigrant positions similar to those of Steve Levy and Tancredo as a Blue Dog DINO.  Let's be brutally honest -- for all practical purposes she's finessing her position thorough the adoption of a Taqiyya-like mask.

She had a 100% National Rifle Association rating as a Blue Dog DINO -- hey a progressive really wants to get rid of the Sullivan Laws since we know they violate our 2nd Amendment Rights -- and maybe that will allow her to quit keeping the guns under the bed!

Was the ONLY Democrat to vote in 2008 against Maxine Waters bill that would have allowed states to purchase foreclosed homes, and last but not least

Voted as a Blue Dog to support an Iraq War $100 billion funding bill, sans paying for that particular bill -- well she had to vote for it since it would not have set a timeline for troop withdrawal --

All I can say to folks mixing it up with me and defending Kirsten -- she's not a progressive. IMO you really should rethink your political compass -- since holding those positions places you squarely on the right side of the political spectrum.

Heck maybe you could call it "Bipartisan Green Tea Bagging" which would give it an organically progressive cachet while retaining the hard right posture.



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FYI (4.00 / 2)
"Just fell off the turnip truck" as a synonym for naivete is a city-person's stereotypical slur against rural people.  It hits me just about as hard as that other slur that happens to apply to me, "dago."

And Buffalo, Rochester and Syracuse are definitively NOT suburbs (although they HAVE suburbs), bear no resemblance whatever to Saratoga Springs, and are chock full of people who mightily resent people who see them, and the entire rest of the world, as some kind of hinterland to NYC.  These upstate cities have a right to self-definition.  New York State is as large as all of France, and the Riviera or the French Basque Country are too proud of their own place to be seen as "suburbs of Paris."  Get the picture?


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A couple of points of information, because you make a lot of assumptions.... (4.00 / 1)
D'Amato showed up for that announcement UNINVITED and muscled his way to the front. We don't even know how he found out and made it there so fast. Organizers were pissed. We were all, OMG and WTF??? She did not give him a starring role, as you suggest. He stole it.

Regarding her internship in D'Amato's office...You don't get to choose where you intern. You consider yourself fortunate to find someplace that will take you. In addition, internships take place when people are in college [read: young and without any kind of relevant life experience]. Who knows if at that age, Kirsten even had formed her own individual political identity?  

Hillary was a Goldwater Girl and interned for republicans in DC when she was in college. Are you going to challenge her Democratic credentials?

Last but not least, to respond to your opening remarks:

     "Oh thanks for the patronizingly clever retorts.  
      First you accuse me of not being a person of color  and then become offended when I answer your question."

---I was not at all patronizing, but I've been told countless times that I'm very clever. Thank you for noticing.

---I didn't accuse you of not being a person of color. You never told us how you defined it. Since you never actually answered the question, it was not possible to be offended by it.

One last question: do you read your posts before going online? Because there's this preview button in the lower right corner of the box and you can read your post to see if you've contradicted yourself before going public with it.

This thread stopped being about political issues when you started hurling unwarranted and ill-informed accusations of racism. I'm sure there is a blog somewhere out there where you can have a protracted discussion about the nuances of cultural sensitivity and racial diversity.  


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