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Parks closing? It's worse than you think.

by: Norbrook

Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 13:35:24 PM EST


Wednesday, Soundpolitic had a diary about the proposed closure of some state parks.  Today, NYCO posted the list of closures.  As bad as this seems, the situation is actually worse.  What these diaries cover is just one state agency, and there are other park agencies to consider.  Principally, the Department of Environmental Conservation. (warning: PDF)
The proposed Executive budget contemplates that DEC will lose an additional 54 staff through attrition by the end of State fiscal year 2010-11, which will bring us to a total fill level of 3,314. When considering how that fill level compares to prior years, it is important to bear in mind that in 2007, 254 long-term virtually full-time seasonal items were reclassified as permanent employees, creating an anomalous spike in the agency's fill level. If those conversions are backed out, by the end of the next fiscal year DEC will be at its lowest fill level since the early 1980s.  

OPRHP manages the state parks and historical sites.  DEC manages the Forest Preserve, State forests, and Wildlife Management Units. It's not until you get into the budget(warning:  PDF) that you see where many of those cuts are (page 190, if you want a shortcut):  44 of them are in the Division of Operations.

The Mission of the Division of Operations is:
" to provide technical services, facilities management, and maintenance of physical assets to insure effective and efficient operation of the Department and safe public use of DEC lands and facilities." DEC facilities include agency buildings, such as its headquarters, regional and field offices, as well as recreational facilities like campgrounds. DEC lands include recreational assets like hunting and fishing areas, as well as DEC's extensive network of hiking, riding and cross country trails. Recreational facilities and trails are created and maintained by DEC's Division of Operations for public use.  

Operations is also taking one of the biggest budget hits.  Approximately 18% of its budget.  What does this mean for recreation?    

Norbrook :: Parks closing? It's worse than you think.
It depends on what you're doing.  While the campgrounds in the Adirondacks and Catskills are relatively "safe" - they're technically "self-funded,"  it means that capital projects and other maintenance needs for them will be cut.  The maintenance of hiking trails, wilderness camping areas, and fishing access points will be greatly reduced, if not done away with in various areas.  This is on top of the closure, last year and this year, of two state campgrounds - one of which is permanently closed.  In effect, on top of the state park closures that are being discussed elsewhere, there's another set of de facto closures going on.  They're not getting attention, because the figures are buried in various agency budgets, and most people don't understand how the state agencies are structured and who has specific responsibilities.

The current budget crisis is drawing attention to the state parks situation, as well as state lands.  The proposal to cut land acquisition using the Environmental Protection Fund was not popular.  The purchase of land, to "put it under protection" is considered a good thing, but it really points to a problem that has been brewing for years.  The current situation is simply a breaking point in it.  

The problem is that it's been a policy to acquire land, to create parks, without considering or budgeting the costs that go along with them.  Something that many people don't realize is that when the state acquires land, the purchase price is not the end of the financial requirement.  The state continues to pay property taxes on that land.  In order to protect it, to maintain facilities, people are needed, equipment and supplies are needed, and there are costs involved in that.  Ongoing, continuous funding is needed.  Yet, somehow, none of that seems to be have been a consideration.  Last year, Fred LeBrun pointed it out:

During the 12 years of the Pataki administration, great gains were made in acquiring new parks, but funding for capital improvements and maintenance costs did not keep up with acquisitions. Now the piper is at the door and he's tapping his foot.

The same thing holds true for DEC - when you look at their staffing levels, in 1989, they had over 4000 full-time personnel.  That doesn't include seasonal workers, and full-time people who were funded under seasonal budgets.  Over the next 15 years, that figure dropped by almost 800 people.  Yet, at the same time, the state acquired more property, created more areas, and added responsibilities.  

The truth is, the state's been very good at creating parks.  It's been good at buying property to put it under protection.  It's been lousy at keeping them up.  In last year's LeBrun article, he mentions that there were anywhere between 650-750 million dollars in maintenance backlogs for OPRHP.  I can't find a figure for DEC, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone told me 100 million or more.  This didn't occur overnight.  It's something that's been growing for years.  We add to the system, but don't add the resources needed to manage it, so the existing budgets must be stretched to cover the new responsibilities.  The result is that it will eventually break.  

It's now looking like it's at the breaking point.  As bad as the situation appears, it's actually worse.  The results of years of staffing and budget cuts and freezes, combined with expansion of the system, are finally becoming apparent to everyone.  If there's a silver lining at all, it's that we should be starting a serious discussion about our parks systems.  NYCO made a comment in Soundpolitic's diary:

There should be a long-term program of constant reassessment of parks and their health.  To prepare New Yorkers for the message, "Look, we're overextended, we need to embark on a program of cutting back - this is what we need to do this year in order to regroup," - EVERY year this should be up for discussion.

Yes, and we also need to start considering how we're going to staff and maintain any park before we create it, or add to it.  Because to date, what we've shown is that we think the act of creating them is enough.  It isn't.  
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Thank you for expanding...allow me to do the same: (4.00 / 1)
Something that many people don't realize is that when the state acquires land, the purchase price is not the end of the financial requirement.  The state continues to pay property taxes on that land.  In order to protect it, to maintain facilities, people are needed, equipment and supplies are needed, and there are costs involved in that.  Ongoing, continuous funding is needed.  Yet, somehow, none of that seems to be have been a consideration.

How the hell can regular people not realize this?

When a regular guy buys a home, do they think that the lawn is going to mow itself for the rest of their lives?  Or that a new coat of paint isn't going to be needed every ten years or so?  Or that leaves are going to magically remove themselves from the gutter?  Or that the cost of purchase includes property taxes?

Much as we want to blame our Governor, bureacrats, and legislature for all this mess, I will hammer home the point that really needs to puncture the two-by-four-thick skulls of the public:

You, THE PEOPLE are responsible!

It is the people's wishful, unrealistic thinking and ignorance of the governing process that the politicians are exploiting here.  Like I said, all sorts of local Assemblyman and Senators are about to swoop in and "rescue" the parks from the "evil" Governor knowing full well that about 2% of their constituency understands what's really going on.

And then we'll be stuck with them for another two years.

Because, all the while, we've been stuck with ourselves.


Magical thinking is unfortunately common (0.00 / 0)
To be honest, I think a lot of people are under the assumption that "state land" means "off the tax rolls."  It's something that there's a lot of interests who want to keep it that way.  Let's face it, a lot of the groups that advocate for the state to buy various properties - some of which they've bought in the assumption that the state will buy it - don't want that to be known.  It raises a lot of uncomfortable questions about why it's in the public interest to purchase said land.  

People often don't think about things like that, or compare it to what they know - until it breaks down.  They go to a park, and have a good time, but they don't think about what it takes to keep that park up and running.  They go on a hike, and don't think about what it takes to keep the trail in shape.  It's not until the park or trail is closed, or it's in such bad shape that it's obvious that anyone "thinks" about it.  

I know some people have talked about having volunteer groups do some of this, but that can be a mixed bag as well.  There's a 5 mile section of the Northville-Lake Placid trail that's supposed to be maintained by the Adirondack Mountain Club.  I say "supposed to" since it's probably the worst section of the trail.  I think last year, for the first time in over 5 years, a group showed up to do something.  That's still only a small section of a very long trail, and no one is volunteering to maintain the more remote sections.  


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not surprised (4.00 / 1)
I do use the state parks a lot, and Pixley Falls (which is on the closure list) is a good example of how return visits to a struggling park can open your eyes to that.  When I was there in 2006 (before the floods that caused heavy damage to the park's critical bridge), the main trail was in dreadful shape, real Indiana Jones in the jungle stuff, with no warning signs at all.  Subsequent visits made me realize that "you get the help you pay for," i.e., clearly the indifference of the park staff had something to do with what the state could afford to pay them.  The park was closed last year for bridge repairs (supposedly).  If they actually did repair the bridge... and now the park has gone under... it makes you wonder, why put money into upgrades when you KNOW you're going to soon reach this point where this park is going to be put on a closure list?  How dumb is that?  

Pixley is (was) a sweet little park that lets you get up close and personal with Rivendell-style mini waterfalls on the trail high above a wide green creek; and there is a really stunning flight of old Black River Canal locks just outside the entrance.  But the writing on the wall about this place was there years ago.  


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Another factor besides pay (4.00 / 1)
can be chalked up to "the beatings will continue until morale improves."  I know from talking to a lot of the people who work the campgrounds around here that morale has been plummeting for a while.  One of the campground supervisors, who's been doing it for 10 years told me "I kept telling myself that next year will be better.  But it gets worse, and it doesn't look like it's going ever to get better."  They've been getting hammered for the past few years. Staff levels have been cut.  Overtime has been done away with - but not the responsibilities that used to get overtime pay. Supplies aren't there, and equipment failures means doing without the equipment.  Infrastructure repairs and replacements are "delayed" because of budget reallocations.  

They're getting to the stage of just being defeated.  It's hard to be ambitious and enthusiastic about your job when it's being made virtually impossible to do the job.  No help, no support - what's the point?  I understand the indifference, even if I wish it wasn't there.  


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totally understand (4.00 / 2)
Last year I was at Robert Treman and was stunned at how cranky everyone working there seemed.  

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When the public sees that it's really an indicator (4.00 / 1)
of how bad things are.  I know I got an earful from one of the supervisor's last year about the shower facility on their campground. He's been getting constant complaints about it, but the problem is that he can't do anything about it.  It's needed to have the shower stalls replaced for the past 20 years, and no one ever seems to come up with the money to do it.  The reason I know about the 20 years, is because a previous supervisor bent my ear about them.  Add in all the things that Albany has seen fit to dump on them - new regulations, invasive species control and education, firewood rules, etc., while at the same time cutting pay and staff, it's a miracle that the public hasn't seen "cranky" yet.  That may change if things keep going downhill for them.  

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improvements (4.00 / 2)
Wasn't it just the other year where they made a big announcement about $90 million in improvements or something?  But it seems like water under the bridge, like there's a fundamental administration problem.  There are parks that are now closing (deemed unsustainable?) which recently got repairs or improvements.

This is what burns my butt about today's announcement.  It's being treated rather brusquely as an "austerity measure" but there is nothing in the announcement about the future (or about the supposed shadow list of other parks that might get canned if they don't make budget next year).  

Well, I feel guilty.  For a while I've wanted to kick start a blog conversation about the parks, since I use them regularly.  I was working toward compiling "citizen's reports" about the facilities and trail conditions - snapping photos and taking notes in a systematic way.  Although it seems that nobody ever wants to be critical of the parks system because it seems so harsh.  People want to be boosters of the parks, they seem disinclined to criticize the nuts and bolts.

Also, now I feel really guilty for calling up the park ranger at 2 a.m. at Fillmore Glen a couple years ago and yelling at him for not intervening in the mass anarchy that was taking place.  I was probably just another crappy detail of his crappy weekend.  :-(


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details (4.00 / 2)
I wrote about this experience a few years ago:

http://twentyfour01.com/nyco/2...


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I understand where you're coming from (4.00 / 1)
As I said in an comment before, I've worked in campgrounds before - I was even a park ranger.  Part of the problem I had, and from listening to the campground people these days, it's gotten worse, is that while there are all these rules and regulations, Albany really doesn't want you to  enforce them.  As the supervisor who's been doing this for a while told me, about the only thing they can do now is evict them the next day - but then they have to listen to Albany yelling at them for evicting people.  

One of the biggest gripes was the overtime cuts - the campground supervisors used to go out and do few rounds with the rangers at night.  Since they're not getting paid for that, and they're now being told not to do it, it means that things aren't going to get nipped in the bud.  That's in addition to the number of cuts in park ranger positions over the years.  The campground a cousin of mine used to be a ranger at had (when they were there) four rangers.  Last year, there was one. My cousin was pretty shocked to find that out - as they said, it was a tough campground to keep under control with four of them out. One was just ridiculous.  

Those are DEC parks, I haven't spent much time in the OPR ones - but from the few conversations I've had, it sounds like they've got pretty much the same problems. (sigh)


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added - I also spent some time (4.00 / 1)
with the staff at one of the state parks down by NYC, and I was really surprised by how depressed they all were.  Some of their park is on the closure list, so I guess they've were expecting the worst.  

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confusion (4.00 / 1)
"How the hell can regular people not realize this? "

Well, no, most people don't realize it.  They assume that since they're state parks, the state owns it and doesn't pay taxes to the municipality.

The Old Erie Canal Park example is interesting.  In the Syracuse area there are two major canal parks: one is the Old Erie State Park which begins in Dewitt and runs east to Rome.  The other is the Camillus Erie Canal Park which is owned and run by the town (largely through volunteers).  This park contains 7 miles of the same canal (although in practice I think they've only managed to clear and develop 4 miles of it after four decades of intense annual work).

Honestly I'm not sure what the money is being spent on at the OE State Park.  You never hear of any restoration work, archaeological study, or whatever.  I get no sense whatsoever that the State has any passion at all for the Old Canal.  But I don't know how many employees they have or what their budget is.  It must all go into towpath maintenance, or something.  Camillus has dozens of volunteers, if not a hundred or more, and whenever I go there something is going on in the way of work.  Something is being chopped and cleared, something is being cleaned,  a sign is being painted, money is being raised with a well stocked gift shop and dinner cruises, and they haven't stopped on this project since 1972.

It's hard work.


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It's been a failing of government (0.00 / 0)
Even at the federal level - the National Parks have around a 9 billion maintenance backlog.  Whenever budgets are made, maintenance is usually the first thing cut.  You can always somehow justify it.  The shingles on the roof will last another year.  The sign doesn't need to be repainted - yet.  The brush isn't that bad.  The picnic tables are still usable, even if that board is sort of rotten.  The trail isn't too bad, it's just a small section that's rough.  You can let it slide for another year, until the time comes when it just falls apart.  

The other factor is that there's always an antagonism to "big government" and how many state workers there are.  It's popular when budgets get tight to "cut the bloated state workforce."  The assumption people make when talking about "state workers" is the people who are working in some office in Albany or a state office building.  They're not thinking about the people who are out there cutting a trail, patching roofs, fixing a footbridge, building fireplaces and lean-to's, fixing erosion, patching roads, or keeping a park's water system running.  They're the first people cut, and they're not replaced.  


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maintenance (4.00 / 1)
Looking at today's closure list, I was struck by the lack of closures or even cutbacks at the parks located in the Ithaca area.  I know they're probably more popular ones, but the trails and stairways in these places (I'm thinking Fillmore Glen, Robert Treman, Buttermilk Falls, Taughannock, etc, the places with a lot of WPA era stuff in them) have got to be absolute bitches to maintain.  I should think that if you even cut down on maintenance a little, these structures will crumble beyond hope.  

Letchworth, farther west, is another one where you visit and you wonder where on earth they get the money to keep it going.  The towns surrounding it are really struggling, too.  It's this massively opulent (on the surface, at least) complex that seems to be a vacation haven built expressly for the enjoyment of 1950s era Xerox and Kodak executives who are no longer with us.


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Not really (4.00 / 1)
A lot of work was done on Fillmore a while back.

But, no, I spend a lot of time at Treman, Taughannock, Buttermilk, Watkins Glen over decades, and, generally, the original WPA work was so damn well done that there is not a lot of maintenance going on.

The big issue at Taughannock over the past many years has been water and sewerage treatment.


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The People ARE The State (4.00 / 1)
Well, no, most people don't realize it.  They assume that since they're state parks, the state owns it and doesn't pay taxes to the municipality.

You're on the right path.

What people have been failing to connect is that they ARE the state.  They've put a wall up between them and the government when they are one and the same.

Something that is state owned is something that you own.  This is what people on both right and left are still not recognizing on this issue and nearly every other issue.


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symbolism and reality (4.00 / 3)
The parks system, of course, is a symbol.  It's something the State does for itself and not just for the locals.  When they talk about this or that park being a "jewel of the system" they are not just using a figure of speech, they serve the same legitimizing function for the government as jewels in an actual crown serve for a king.  They are also a perk that many people in New York expect, just as New Yorkers expect social programs.

When you have to dump the state parks, you are signaling weakness to the world in a much more noticeable way than quietly cutting into a social entitlement program.  Parks aren't "ideological" (well, yes, really they are, the concept of public lands for public benefit) like other entitlements are made out to be.  And, as has been pointed out, it's because the weakness is actually there.  Now it's just being made apparent.  There's a reason why Albany was not forthcoming with this list, or with this discussion.  

But honestly, the targeting of the historic sites seems weird.  These are blood-and-guts historic sites (sometimes literally, as with the battlefields).  These aren't just fancy homes owned by patroons.  This is a profound symbolism fail piled on top of the general symbolism fail (of trouble with the parks).

It is political... it's a political failure on "our side" (the Democratic Party ideal of the public good) bound up in logistical and bureaucratic failures.  What does the future hold?  We're actually having to fight for actual land, here, not just social programs and ideals.


It's not just New York (4.00 / 1)
Virtually every state has some form of this issue, some more than others.  California is an example of a state that's on the verge of shutting down its park system entirely.  

The problem in this state is that when people talk about state parks, they're thinking in terms of the OPRHP, and thinking that's the sum and total of the problem.  A specific agency.    The reality is that the responsibility is spread around between several state agencies, along with the budgets.  Even then, it isn't obvious.  If I didn't know that DEC's Division of Operations was the division responsible for maintaining the trails, wilderness camping, fishing access points, boat access, and running the Forest Preserve campgrounds, it wouldn't occur to me that the budget and personnel cuts meant anything to "state parks."  If I didn't know that Lands & Forests in DEC has the operating responsibility for the trails and wilderness camping in both the Forest Preserve and the State Forests, I wouldn't think about the impact of cuts there.  If I don't know about ORDA, I don't think about what cuts there mean.

That's why the title has "it's worse than you think."  Because as bad as the OPR cuts are, and as wrenching as the closures are, it's just a part of what's happening to state parks.  There's a lot of other major cuts, and they're all bad for the "crown jewels."   It's been going on for years, and it's been a well-hidden problem.  


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in Arizona (4.00 / 2)
(whose state parks I remember fondly from my childhood), some Danish lady who fell in love with Arizona left a huge bequest to their state parks system, money which the state hadn't gotten around to assigning... until the recent financial crisis, when they grabbed the money and used it for completely non-park-related expenses thanks to a loophole.

However, in New York, access to outdoor spaces in park form goes entirely through the state (and counties and towns), unlike in the West where you have a lot of national parks and national forests.  Here, Albany is running or influencing virtually everything.  

The reason why it's worse than we all think, though, is because I'd guess the majority of New Yorkers only think of the parks in terms of the few local haunts they use regularly.  The average Joe does not go trail hiking or skiing - they swim and take their kids on picnics, or party in the campgrounds.  What people are most concerned about is access to the facilities and to the major attractions in the parks (which do involve trail work).  That's why it's hard for them to ask the questions you rightly point out need to be asked.

(Someone like me is probably in the huge minority - I go to different state parks all season long, just out of curiosity and for the heck of it.)


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What I've noticed (4.00 / 1)
is similar to what you point out - people are thinking of their local haunts, or the one they go to on vacation.  Not knowing the full extent is, IMHO, because of several factors.  First, the state has one of the oldest park systems, and there's a certain bureaucratic turfing that developed over the years.  The Conservation Department was  in charge of the Forest Preserve - the state lands in the Adirondacks and the Catskills since they began.  They're responsible for the state forests, etc.  When DEC was formed, those responsibilities went with it.  OPRHP was started to run the state parks.  That DEC has recreational facilities - and has for almost a century - isn't something that sinks in.  People think there is one agency, not a number of them, and it's never been really stressed to the public by any of the agencies.  

Another aspect is that most people in this state have no idea that the state does pay property taxes.  There was an interesting blow-up last year when Paterson tried to cut/freeze those tax payments.  I think it was the first time that it was ever in the newspapers that the state paid land taxes.  There's almost a "conspiracy of silence" about that.  There's a lot of different groups who advocate strongly for the state to acquire various parcels of land  to create a new park or add to an existing one.  Somehow, they never quite mention that it means adding that to the state's property tax burden.  It would raise all sorts of uncomfortable questions for them if they did.  So, just don't mention it.  


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on the surface... (4.00 / 1)
The only difference most parks users comprehend between DEC and OPR is that the "quiet hours" are slightly different.  

DO we have too many parks than we can handle?  Would the system fall apart if these issues were more discussed and made more transparent?  How do we unravel any overextension with a maximum of fairness and a minimum of pain?


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Good questions (0.00 / 0)
I think the answer is unfortunately, yes, we do have more parks than we can handle - or at least, are willing to pay to handle.  It was rather jaw-dropping to see that OPRHP had some 700 million in maintenance backlogs, and that there were major parks that didn't have adequate or safe water systems.  I already knew from living inside the Adirondacks that DEC had been making a series of cuts over the years, and I could see the results every time I went hiking or camping.

It's a long-overdue discussion.  If we're going to have parks, we need to account for their ongoing needs and decide how that's going to be paid for.  There's a great quote in this article:

People who have come to enjoy the park's ambiance, as well as the recreation opportunities it affords, should realize that those assets also come at a cost, he said.

"Government-supported facilities require a certain amount of money that necessarily must come from the public," he said. "People love the park, but they don't want to hear the word taxes. We have to get the public to make the association and put the two together."

I can make a great case for some parks, some campgrounds, some trails.  I'm sure that there are cases to be made for every one of them. But unless we're willing to discuss and accept the entire responsibility, then we have to figure out which ones we're going to keep.      


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