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"Non-partisan" ain't neutral

by: simonstl

Thu Sep 23, 2010 at 13:57:17 PM EDT


People who've followed my postings are likely aware that I'm not a fan of Assemblywoman Barbara Lifton for many reasons. I've voted against her endorsement by the Tompkins County Democratic Committee, criticized her on a variety of issues, and been, well, less than polite at a few public forums. The last thing I really want to do on a normal day is republish Lifton press releases.

Every now and then, though, something so infuriating comes up that the only right response is to republish a Lifton press release:

Lifton Campaign Challenges Opponent to Engage in Fair Debate, Reveal Actual Party and Anti-government Group Affiliations Publicly

The campaign of Assemblywoman Barbara Lifton has been approached by Ms. Kelly Kheel, who initially represented herself, on Sept. 8, as follows:

I am hosting a Meet the Candidate night in Tompkins County, NY. This is a non partisan forum. We plan to send invitation (sic) and moderate the event. The date is Sept. 25 at 7 pm. Mr. Reynolds has agreed.

Thank you for your consideration.
Cordially,
Kelly Kheel

The Lifton campaign made repeated efforts to work with Ms. Kheel to agree to a time, format and location that would allow Assemblywoman Lifton's participation in a forum. Repeated requests for information about Ms. Kheel's "group" were responded to with minimal or misleading information. Eventually, the Lifton Campaign was able to discover, through on-line research, that Ms. Kheel's group is 912 TEA CTCNY. Reading the information on their website, at http://www.meetup.com/912Tea-Party-Patriots-Tompkins-County-NY/ , reveals that many of their 66 members reside outside of the Cortland/Tompkins area that they purportedly represent. Their current headline reads "We Surround Ithaca." The web page also reveals that Assemblywoman Lifton's opponent has been an active member of this group since April 14, 2010, although this information is not included on his campaign website, nor did Ms. Kheel mention that Mr. Reynolds was a member of her group in her correspondence with the Lifton campaign until we brought this fact up with her.

The Lifton Campaign challenges Mr. Reynolds to be open and above-board with the public about his true party affiliations. On the Tea Party group's website, his member page identifies him, in his own words, as a "Reagan republican Cheif Financial Officer," and he has also represented himself to the media as a Republican. Yet, while he is the Republican nominee for Assembly, his Board of Elections records identify him as a registered member of the Conservative Party. He has made public challenges to our campaign to engage in large numbers of debates, and then apparently encouraged the organizers of a group he is a member of to misrepresent itself as an impartial entity and set up a rigged "forum" in which the group leader acted as moderator.

Fair play and honest public discourse are the cornerstones of our democracy. The Lifton campaign challenges her opponent to engage in honest dicussion, in truly impartial forums, of the actual issues facing NYS government. We also challenge Mr. Reynolds to explain how he would uphold the Constitution of the State of NY if he accepts the 4th principle of Ms. Kheel's group: "The family is sacred. My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government." Would he be willing to uphold NYS laws? Is his goal to become a NYS Assembly Member, or to spread the anti-government message of the TEA Party?

That's not an invitation to a debate - it's an invitation to an ambush. Dryden's had some contentious debates in the past, probably peaking in 2007 at Varna. I'll admit that I felt ambushed by some of the extremely right-wing questions, not to mention false claims - but at least the moderators of those events actually were neutral.

The first of the 2007 debates was moderated by the League of Women Voters, and the next two were moderated by WHCU host Geoff Dunn. Dunn makes a point of registering as a blank and of taking political signs only when he can signs from all sides - I don't know what his personal politics are, but he does an excellent job of keeping them out of the way when running a debate.

I worry that few undecided voters actually show up at debates, and there seems to be a regular battle to stack the audience with supporters. That said, stacking the moderator as well as the audience goes way way way outside of anything I'd recognize as decent politics.

If this is the kind of change the Tea Party folks want to bring to politics, we have some major problems before we even get to actual issues.

(Cross-posted with minor changes from Living in Dryden.)

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I am Kelly Kheel and I invited all candidates for a non-partisan candidate event.  We had a registered blank moderate the event.  Each candidate that attended was given equal time and equal space to hand out material.  Our goal is for voters to interview the candidates in a comfortable forum without the pressures from either party.  We feel we achieved this goal.  Ms. Liftons campaign was rude, the email correspondences never answered the simple question, "will you attend".  Instead they just badged me and cited non existent laws..  At least Mr. Hinchey just said "No".  

Ms. Lifton did attend a forum at Cortland the same day.  She had an actor speak on anti-drilling.  Not a scientist an actor.  This actor brought with him an anti-drilling group from Ithaca to support her agenda.  My question to Ms. Lifton, has she done her own objective research on the topic of hdyrofracking or will she rely on actors to tell her how to vote?  

Our group 912teactcny believes in 9 principle and 12 values.  Out of the 9 principles we ask the members to agree with at least 7.  Does Ms. Lifton believe government can raise our children better than parents?


If you want to hold a candidate event (0.00 / 0)
there are some really basic things you need to do when inviting candidates:

* Tell them who you are and what group you represent

* Explain the format of the event

* If it's going to be a public debate or question and answer, you need to explain who will moderate and what the structure will be.

Since you appear to have done none of those at the outset, I'm impressed that the Lifton campaign was even willing to have a conversation beyond a flat 'no'.  Not identifying yourself at the outset would have been a huge red flag if I'd been in the conversation - a pretty much instant path to 'no'.

Finally, it seems you didn't read the title of the post - registration as a blank or declaring a group "non-partisan" does pretty much nothing to suggest the kind of neutrality that's useful in a moderator or an event host.  


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KellyA (0.00 / 0)
You are only getting one side of the story and that side in lying I know for a fact that all information was given to everyone invited and this is just another example of how they twist the truth the meet their needs.  And that is why they must go.

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I didn't write the second post.  I only wrote the response with my full name Kelly Kheel and this post.  There must be two KellyA registered on this site.  I have the email correspondences, we did identify ourselves.  I never said anyone was lying, but that is what the campaign accused me of.  Also we are a 912 group not a Tea Party.  

I Must Always Try to Be a More Honest Person. . . . (0.00 / 0)
Honestly, what bugged me most about this brouhaha was that Lifton's opponent belongs to the very organization that sponsored the debate, yet he failed either to recuse himself or to mention that fact. That's dishonest, to say the very least. How can you hope to spark honest discussion in front of The People if you start by obfuscating your alliances and then claim that the process was aboveboard and transparent? I'll chalk this one up to naivete, but I hope the 912ers don't imagine that The People are as naive as they are.

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