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NY-Sen: Gillibrand and the post-primary polls

by: devtob

Thu Sep 30, 2010 at 19:27:59 PM EDT


Two weeks ago, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand found out who her Republican opponent will be -- former Rep. Joe DioGuardi of Westchester.

Though DioGuardi is largely unknown, and has been out of office for 20 years, the first two polls out showed that he was within single digits of Gillibrand -- SUSA had it 44-43, and Quinnipiac had it 48-42.

While the Murdoch NY Post, their GOP confederates, and DioGuardi loved those polls, subsequent polls from Siena and Marist found double-digit margins -- up by 24 in the Siena poll of registered voters, and by 11 in the Marist poll of likely voters.

What these numbers probably mean, below.

devtob :: NY-Sen: Gillibrand and the post-primary polls
In short, Gillibrand is up somewhere in the mid-teens -- good, but not great.

The SUSA poll is an obvious outlier, and the Quinnipiac poll somewhat less so.

Gillibrand has generally struggled in the polls, because of her low name recognition, especially in the NYC metro area. Her favorability and name recognition have steadily grown over the 20 months she's been a Senator.

Pre-primary polls had shown her with a 20-plus point lead over DioGuardi and the other two Republican Senate candidates. DioGuardi presumably got a boost from lots of free media surrounding his primary win.

DioGuardi won in part because he was able to lend his campaign $1.2 million, most of which is gone. Gillibrand has more than $4 million cash on hand.

Gillibrand has a solid progressive voting record in the Senate, and has taken leadership roles on issues like DADT, children's nutrition and health, infrastructure investments, and openness and transparency.

Here's what a reporter at the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle (upstate, but a couple three hours from Gillibrand former Congressional District) wrote after his first in-person encounter with Gillibrand, at an editorial board meeting last month:

I did not expect to see such a warm, focused and extremely well-prepared person willing to answer every single question honestly and completely. Her command of the issues was remarkable, as was her common-sense approach to act on them.

She is one of the very few politicians I have come across who had a good grasp of the various angles of every issue, and her reasons for supporting or opposing it. There was a candidness rarely seen in politics.

The reporter then listed 27 issues that Gillibrand took a "logical and sensible approach" to -- in one editorial board meeting.

Gillibrand is smart, incredibly hard-working, and progressive. New York voters get their first chance to vote for her in November (with a second to follow in 2012), and a solid majority will recognize that she is an excellent Senator.  

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DioGuardi is a pretty extreme (4.00 / 4)
Party of No type, who would be better off running in Alabama.

Gillibrand is totally right for New York (4.00 / 3)
Exactly, devtob.  Gillibrand is totally right for New York.  She's gonna win in November.  This DioGuardi guy is bad news and definitely not first string.  His campaign chose perfect colors - orange and black.  Happy Halloween!

Orange and Black (4.00 / 4)
Actually a smart choice in my book.  These are the colors drivers' eyes are most alert to on the road as they are frequently used in signs indicating that caution needs to be observed at a higher level.  So signs of that color tend to stand out.

Signs that are red, white, and blue suffer from the oppositie problem.  People will see the colors, assume it's a political sign, and then not even bother to read it.

The Tea Party signs I love are NY-21 candidate Ted Danz.  The idiot has the stars of the flag mucking up the white lettering of his name...I can barely read it when you next to it at a stoplight and I scour the landscape for these things and keep track of which ones dissappear!  The damn fool took his "patriotism" so far that he's not going to achieve his primary objective: name recognition!

Orange and black were the color of those Paladino signs.  Yes, Halloween is a good metaphor, but all joking aside, these guys in their Tea Party outfits and orange and black signs are getting attention and making people who don't normally think about politics try to...and then come to wrong conclusion.

These numbers are just OK, and that's a shame for such a great Senator.  And it is surely name recognition that's the problem; Schumer doesn't have nearly the same problem as Gillibrand has, and Clinton never did before her.

Of course, when I hear that a U.S. Senator has name recognition problems, all that tells me is that a lot of people in her home state have yet to recognize that there's a few names you should know about in order to be a real American citizen.  That is, one who actual takes part in America the Government instead of just America the Sideshow.  But then, I can be pessimistic about that sort of thing...

...I'm optimistic about Gillibrand's election.  But I could still be a less skeptical.


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She's gonna win - IF WE HELP HER WIN. (4.00 / 6)
We cannot take anything for granted - remember Scott Brown?  Do you see how many people think Palindino is a good choice?  This is going to take more effort than 2008.  In 2008, they didn't think we could win.   We did.  Now, they're fighting back. We need feet on the street for the next month, for everyone up & down the ticket.    

Truer words were never spolken n/t (4.00 / 4)


What a long, strange trip it's been.

[ Parent ]
Getting the under 30 crowd out (4.00 / 1)
on election day will be the biggest challenge. The mid-terms are just not sexy enough for them. Too many of them think that democracy is something they can participate in on a casual, low-maintenance relationship basis.  

[ Parent ]
post-primary bounce? (4.00 / 1)
...it seems to me that this may well be just a typical post-primary bounce for the Republican...perhaps, in part, because there was a competitive Republican primary and, for many voters, the media coverage regarding the primary victory may have been the only visibility for the victor among many people. The same, too, may apply to Paladino, wehre a poll or two just a couple of days after his primary win showed a closer race, as well.

In the case of the Democrats, neither Gillibrand nor Cuomo faced serious primary challengers, so they didn't get much or any primary coverage...so neither of them would benefit from a post-primary bounce.


Would DioGuardi even have had a chance (4.00 / 1)
if his daughter hadn't been an Idol judge? Other than that he's just a former congressman most had forgotten about before this race, having her out there probably helped bring in money and votes. I watched his victory speech on primary night, he just rambled on about nonsense and at points was completely unintelligible, which, now that I think about it, explains the way Kara acted on Idol. Kirsten will win if we work to make sure of it.  

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