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State Senate on the Edge

by: robinia

Wed Nov 03, 2010 at 08:46:36 AM EDT


Well, I went to bed discouraged about the NYS Senate, and woke up to slightly better news.  I am not finding a better results page than the NY Times, which does not give a lot of detail.  Not a lot of detail is needed, however, to tell that what we have is a very closely divided house, whichever way the chips (as in, absentee ballots and last few precincts) fall.

Of course, I am with Jay Jacobs hoping that we narrowly hold onto our majority.  But, I also see the danger in that.  Whichever party ends up holding the narrowest of majorities in the NYS Senate is going to be vulnerable to the kind of foot-stomping tantrums by individual legislators that plagued the body in recent times.  With any luck, it will NOT be as bad and blatant as Espada the embarrassment.  But, you may recall that Thompson-- apparently aware that he had an eroding base back home-- almost stamped his feet into privatizing our SUNY system and putting it in the business of real estate speculation.  Which I am sure would have had no capacity for corruption or anything....

Now is the time for Democratic reformers to INSIST on a new kind of party discipline.  Not the kind that ensures that, say, the Aqueduct video gambling franchise goes to Floyd Flake's buddies.  Rather, the kind that upholds the sanctity of small-d democracy, and requires the conference to negotiate for the good of ALL NYS.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I am an idealist. It is ideals, and discipline, that will keep NYS Democrats strong.

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And then there is "swing Cuomo" who could have outsized power... (4.00 / 1)
The situation also let's Andrew have more power than is good for him (or us).  Check out what one of the best analysts NYS has says about that:

"Cuomo's agenda is more likely to be convergent with the Republican agenda in the first year," said Gerald Benjamin, director of the Center for Research, Regional Education and Outreach at the State University of New York at New Paltz.

"The moment calls for constraint upon government," he added. "There are insufficient resources, and that's a natural Republican position."

(quoted from the NY Times)

hoping... (4.00 / 1)
i am hoping the senate majority goes republican for one reason, and one reason only:  checks and balances.

it is a bad, bad thing when **any** one party controls the executive chamber and both legislative bodies.

d.


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I'll add another reason (4.00 / 4)
I don't think the current Senate Democratic leadership can actually lead much of anything.  Even if these go our way, it's going to be an incredibly close Senate, and we know how well that went last term.

I'm not happy to land here, but it'd be a relief not to be embarrassed every single time I turn around.  The ideals robinia describes above just don't exist in sufficient quantities in the New York State Legislature, and the results are constantly horrifying.

I'd like to think redistricting could be better with divided power, but reality hasn't worked that way at all in the past, so I suspect we're screwed as usual.

My one happiness this election cycle in the state legislature: Espada's departure.  It sets at least some kind of twelve-stories-underground minimum bar, which is slightly better than we've had in a while.


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The current leadership in the Senate is gone, count on it (4.00 / 6)
We are going to see new leadership in the Senate, even if the Dems keep control.  No party in their right mind puts somebody currently under investigation by the feds in a leadership position.... especially following Espada.

I'm all down with Liz Krueger for leadership.  And, yeah, I do think she has ideals.  I also think Schneiderman is going to be ON them to reform or else.  He knows where there are buried bodies.  And he knows who is flim-flam.

You can have checks and balances without Republicans.  You simply put the reformers in charge, and give 'em whips.  Krueger has the ovaries to do it.


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I'd be happy with Krueger in leadership (4.00 / 2)
I just don't think she can find much of a supporting team in that chamber.

The idea of Schneiderman keeping his former colleagues on notice makes me happy - but again, it's a hard thing to picture working well in the Albany maze.


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Vision thing (0.00 / 0)
Well, ya know, envisioning the positive is my thing. Dreaming together, that's real governing, eh?

[ Parent ]
I am absolutely hoping the opposite for the same reason (0.00 / 0)
The Republican Party is a corpse.  It is not a legitimate political party any more, but a queer mix of patronage/self-dealing, and fascism/theocracy.

It needs to be destroyed stone cold dead so that a real alternative party -- one which believes in democracy -- can compete against the Democrats.  Hell, I'd take the Right-To-Life Party over the Republicans.

Redistricting would be better if the Republicans were eliminated totally.


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Yeah... (0.00 / 0)
Redistricting and my friends who work in the State Senate are about the only reasons I'm rooting for Antoine. Why oh why couldn't our candidates who are decent people win?

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Please see my question in Adama's post (0.00 / 0)
I want to know how the hell Antoine manages to lose in a district with a 5-1 enrollment advantage.  Am afraid I may actually know, too.

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Well, we made an example of Espada. (4.00 / 3)
So I'm not looking for a repeat of that.  That said, our people in the State Senate had better get their shit together, or it will be another generation before they get another shot.  And that won't be good for anyone in New York.

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