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Who'd we lose?

by: simonstl

Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 15:25:25 PM EDT

New York didn't have as large a Republican blast as was felt in many states, but I also can't find a great listing of how much changed below the statewide races where Democrats won the field.

In the House, I see us having lost:

NY-1 Tim Bishop (maybe, new)
NY-13 Michael McMahon (Thanks for noticing, GallatinDan)
NY-19 John Hall
NY-20 Scott Murphy
NY-24 Mike Arcuri
NY-25 Dan Maffei (Maybe)
NY-29 was Eric Massa, but empty

In the State Senate, it looks like we picked up Avella and Carlucci, but lost:

3 - Brian Foley
7 - Craig Johnson (Maybe)
37 - Suzi Oppenheimer (Very maybe)
48 - Darrel Aubertine
60 - Antoine Thompson (Maybe)

The closest I can find to an overview of Assembly results is this Times-Union piece, which suggests that the 100-vote veto-proof majority is in question. "The Democrats lost at least seven seats" and the 1st, 89th, 100th, 109th, and 121st were in the absentee range.

Any more detail on which seats changed hands there?

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you left out McMahon in NY-13

by: GallatinDan @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:02:58 PM UTC

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Here's whatcha need: (4.00 / 2)

http://elections.nytimes.com/2...

by: robinia @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:15:47 PM UTC

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Almost (0.00 / 0)

They don't indicate who the incumbents are/were. Most years, I know, that hardly matters, but...

by: simonstl @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:36:15 PM UTC

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In the Assembly (4.00 / 1)

Gordon in the 108th was an Independence Party member that ran on the D line and caucused with the D's.

In the 109th it looks like Reilly will probably win re-election but that is not certain. Both of those seats were recent pick-ups in the capital district area.

by: Andrew C. White @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 00:08:09 AM UTC

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Gordon (0.00 / 0)

is a stand-up guy. I'm sorry to see him go.

by: leftigurl @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:26:44 AM UTC

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Wrong. (4.00 / 1)

The Westchester Board of Elections is now reporting Senator Oppenheimer has a 466-vote lead with two districts outstanding. She never trailed 2324 as reported in the Times, there was a "glitch" in the reporting system that the Times reported, but was incorrect.

Suzi is going to win.

by: WNYDEM @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:24:41 PM UTC

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I said "very maybe" (4.00 / 1)

So slow down a bit with the flamethrower. It's getting pretty tired.

by: simonstl @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:35:23 PM UTC

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If saying "Wrong" (0.00 / 0)

Is using a flamethrower, is saying "Incorrect" better?

Because the Times had it wrong, not you.

by: WNYDEM @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:51:54 PM UTC

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you started out with (4.00 / 1)

"whine, whine, whine" early today and I can't say you've come off friendly since.

Maybe not a flamethrower, but keep those elbows in a bit?

by: simonstl @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 22:01:51 PM UTC

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Oppenheimer now up 504 (0.00 / 0)

With the last two machines counted.

by: Lead Dog @ Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 19:13:31 PM UTC

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Worst lost? (4.00 / 3)

If it come to fruition, Dan Maffei. That's a hard one to take.

by: BingChester @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 21:39:51 PM UTC

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Yea (0.00 / 0)

He's a good guy and a team player. Didn't think he would be in trouble.

by: BKSocDem @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 22:10:24 PM UTC

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Worst emotional loss? (4.00 / 3)

Hands down,...John Hall.

We've got some work ahead of us.

by: NYBri @ Thu Nov 04, 2010 at 23:34:27 PM UTC

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I don't know about that.... (0.00 / 0)

I'm pretty crushed about Murphy.

But definitely blown away that both Hall and Murphy were defeated by freakin' Tea Party nut-cases.

by: leftigurl @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:25:09 AM UTC

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Pretty predictable really. Deeply Republican District, (0.00 / 0)

strong Republican candidate and a vote for PPACA that broke a lot of Rice Bowls.

by: John Minehan @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 00:17:27 AM UTC

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Rice Bowls? (0.00 / 0)

by: simonstl @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 00:32:18 AM UTC

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"Should the rice bowl be broken, all that it has granted will be lost." (4.00 / 1)

An old story about rice bowls and wishes. A version of it is here: http://www.wildgear.com/storie...

by: Lead Dog @ Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 19:12:24 PM UTC

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Thanks! (0.00 / 0)

Hadn't seen that one before.

by: simonstl @ Tue Nov 09, 2010 at 19:52:44 PM UTC

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Hall was probably a well-intentioned guy, but he could not frame (0.00 / 0)

a coherant sentence. When Ball was doing his Town Halls on what became PPACA, it was clear he could have beaten Hall. Of course, now Hayworth is the US representative and Ball is a State Senator; a "twofer."

by: John Minehan @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 00:20:39 AM UTC

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McMahon (0.00 / 0)

Was no great loss even though I'm sorry that he won't be in his DINO Chair.

Jon Hall's loss was 1,000 times great than that of McMahon. McMahon voted against Healthcare and Wall Street/Banking controls and refused to listen to his base, so his base deserted him. I voted for him but I know many people on SI that didn't because of these 2 votes.

by: ROSALIE907 @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 01:20:54 AM UTC

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Any updates on the 3 too-close-to call Sen races? (0.00 / 0)

Is anyone planning on posting on this? The info is hard to come by. Maybe someone has some of these answers:

Is there another web page I'm not aware of that has a running tab?

Newsday ran a piece about uncounted ballots in the 7th SD w. little info. Any way to find out if those ballots are from specific areas (hopefully heavy Dem) or are evenly dispersed throughout the SD?

Thanks!

by: LOBlue @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 12:06:23 PM UTC

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think we're waiting on absentee counting (0.00 / 0)

that doesn't start until Monday. The local committees doubtless have the lists of whose ballots they are, but I've not seen any news outlets adventurous enough to explore that.

by: simonstl @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 00:34:04 AM UTC

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One thing to remember (4.00 / 5)

is that these districts have historically been Republican, and were gerrymandered to keep them that way. So in a year where there's a big "throw the bums out" mentality on the part of the electorate, it's not surprising that they'd swing back into Republican hands. Another thing that didn't help us at all was that we had an inept Governor, as well as the scandals going on with the State Senate.

The good thing is that in the race everyone ignored (sigh), we kept NY-23 blue. :)

by: Norbrook @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 12:29:36 PM UTC

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Thompson's district has a huge Dem edge (0.00 / 0)

It's almost 90 percent Dem? Scary to think if AT loses that his opponent will try to get those lines redrawn. Don't know the demographics there. Assume it would be hard to make it anywhere near safe Repub.

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check out the analysis a couple of posts down (4.00 / 1)

Adama and Amherst Guy really explained this situation well for me. What is most interesting is that the guy who ran against him, admittedly on the Republican line, is actually a registered Democrat. So, maybe he is more trying to get rid of AT than redraw districts.

by: robinia @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 18:19:44 PM UTC

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We may take 96 (a pickup) (4.00 / 1)

Roxanne Donnery won the Orange County portion of the district (no surprise; I have talked to enough Republicans who are sick of Nancy Calhoun) but Calhoun's lead in Stony Point was wide enough (although narrower than it was over Randazzo the last two times) to give her a 300-vote edge with over a thousand absentee ballots accumumated to start counting next week. Calhoun thinks they will break her way because more of them are Republicans, but see my comment above (In all my phonebanking for Donnery I didn't hear one person tell me outright they were supporting Calhoun). So, in a couple of weeks we could read about a long-overdue Dem pickup in a race that didn't get much statewide attention.

by: Daniel Case @ Fri Nov 05, 2010 at 15:42:02 PM UTC

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You did better than i thought in the 23d. If the one guy had had the (0.00 / 0)

Conservative and Republican lines, you would have lost that too.

by: John Minehan @ Sat Nov 06, 2010 at 00:22:23 AM UTC

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You need to add (0.00 / 0)

Tim Bishop to the "maybe" category. A re-canvass in CD1 shows Altschuler up by 300+ Ugh