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NY-20: Gibson lies about Medicare vouchers

by: devtob

Fri Apr 15, 2011 at 21:41:18 PM EDT


Tea Party Rep. Chris Gibson voted for the Ryan budget today, like almost every other Republican Member of Congress.

So he voted to end Medicare as we know it, and turn it into a voucher program that will impoverish senior citizens of modest means.

Like most Republican candidates last fall, Gibson ran ads decrying the fictional $500 billion cuts to Medicare in the health care reform law.

Gibson lied in scaring seniors during the campaign, and he also lied in telling them that he opposed Medicare vouchers.

For an allegedly squeaky-clean veteran, Gibson is quite the accomplished liar.

Details of his serial lies, on just this one issue, below.

devtob :: NY-20: Gibson lies about Medicare vouchers
During the campaign, Gibson benefitted from some six-figures worth of Medicare scare ads paid for by the 60 Plus Association, a Republican astroturf outfit that supports privatizing Social Security and Medicare.

Back in September, Maury Thompson of the Glens Falls Post-Star asked Gibson a question about 60 Plus that resonates today:

Thompson: What about Medicare vouchers?

Gibson: No - not at all. I don't support that.

Pants on fire.

Gibson strongly supported the Ryan budget, with its Medicare voucher plan, as soon as it was announced, appearing several times on local conservative talk radio to sing Ryan's praises.

And, when called out on that, Gibson lied about it some more on his Facebook page last week:

The plan proposed by House Republicans is based on a proposal developed by the Obama Deficit Commission. It is NOT a voucher program.

Two lies in two sentences, par for the course with Gibson -- of course, it is a voucher program, and it's based on a proposal developed NOT by the Obama Deficit Commission, but by one of its wingnut members, Paul Ryan.

Later in that comment thread, Gibson says that the Ryan Medicare proposal is "premium support," not vouchers.

Yet another lie, according to Henry Aaron, a think tanker who developed a premium support model for Medicare.

Ezra Klein got Aaron on the record, under the headline "Creator of premium support says Ryan has 'vouchers, not premium support'".

Aaron's take on the Ryan plan that Gibson mendaciously supports and voted for:

Ryan is associated with at least three different plans. There was Rivlin-Ryan, plain old Ryan, and now there's the Path to Prosperity. They're all different. In some ways, the Path to Prosperity plan improves on previous version, because the role of exchanges and risk adjustment is nearer to what we had in mind. But it is hands down the worst because it links premiums to consumer prices, which is the slowest growing index.

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We're looking at linking to an index that grows less rapidly than health-care costs by three to four percentage points a year. Piled up over 10 years, and that's a huge erosion of coverage. It's vouchers, not premium support.

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There's one provision of the Ryan bill that stands out as being hands-down the worst, and that is giving the seniors who are poor enough to also be on Medicaid a medical savings account. Does he know who these people are? They're very sick, they're very poor and many of them have cognitive as well as physical problems. They would be asked to cope with the inevitable headaches of dealing with private insurance and managing a personal checking account to pay periodic bills. This is not a sensible proposal.

The other five NY Republican freshmen -- Michael Grimm, NY-13; Nan Hayworth, NY-19; Richard Hanna, NY-24; Ann Marie Buerkle, NY-25; and Tom Reed, NY-29 -- also voted to end Medicare as we know it and substitute an impoverishing voucher program.

They presumably have lied about it too, but it would be hard for any of them to match Gibson's record of mendacity on this issue.

AFAIK, Gibson is in a class of his own, at least among that motley crew, as a shameless serial liar about Medicare.  

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This will be the major issue (4.00 / 1)
in House races in 2012.

Not just the voting to get rid of Medicare, but also the serial lying about it.


Dev (4.00 / 1)
I saw this posted by you on Kos and replied there but I want you to know that I'm trying to organize protests at Grimm's Staten Island and Brooklyn Offices.  Additionally, I think we should use this statement for any Republican Congress Member who voted for this "So and So voted to kill Grandma AND Grandpa."  Posters, mailings, etc should all include this statement.  This also goes for Jane Corwin who has publically stated that she would have voted for this bill.  

[ Parent ]
Jane Corwin: Me too! (4.00 / 1)
And in a classic late Friday news dump, the NY 26 GOP nominee Jane Corwin has finally admitted she's a Ryan Republican: http://www.capitaltonight.com/... . Given that this is an aging district, the Ryan plan would wreak havoc with the constituents Corwin proposes to serve.

Corwin's opponent, Kathy Hochul, has been out there defending Medicare and calling out Corwin for her silence. Perhaps that's why Corwin finally felt she had to say something, but her inability to do anything other than parrot official GOP talking points shows that she cares more about her party than the people of NY 26. (Alas, we have a long tradition of that with Paxon, Reynolds, and Lee.) You can follow the details of this race at GLOWDemocrats.org. You can help out Kathy Hochul at https://secure.actblue.com/ent... .


The NY-26 special should be (0.00 / 0)
a national race like the NY-20 and NY-23 specials.

And if it becomes a referendum on Medicare, Hochul will win.


[ Parent ]
DCCC? (4.00 / 1)
I agree!  Will the DCCC listen?

[ Parent ]
Unfortunately, the DCCC polled early and decided the race wasn't worth their time. (4.00 / 1)
They had a poll on the ground through Global Strategies Group less than 48 hours after Lee resigned. I'm not privy to the actual numbers, but I know that right after that poll came back, the DCCC pretty much shut down the push that they had been making on the race prior to that, and abandoned the race.

That would also seem to be reflected in the reports I'm hearing about the campaigns' internal polling, which shows Corwin as a lock.  


[ Parent ]
? (4.00 / 1)
What you hear is different from what I hear, and Corwin has just given us a huge cudgel.

[ Parent ]
Erie County... (4.00 / 1)
What they may also be considering is Erie County Dems Chairman Len Lenihan's disastrous record in bringing out the vote in the north-towns in recent years.

[ Parent ]
Timing (4.00 / 1)
When is the special? And is there time for the DCCC, which just announced a huge fundraising quarter, to get their ass back to WNY and make a difference?

The second question deals mostly with how quickly the DCCC can make a decision and then act on it.


[ Parent ]
May 24 (4.00 / 1)
The special election is May 24, so there's time for the D-trip to have a real impact.

[ Parent ]
A long line... (4.00 / 1)
(Alas, we have a long tradition of that with Paxon, Reynolds, and Lee.) Corwin would just add to the long line of Erie County hacks representing GLOW.

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