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NY-9: Siena Poll Shows 6 Point Turner Lead

by: phillip anderson

Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 10:05:10 AM EDT


Looks like Turner is surging, folks.

Turner Holds 6-Point Lead over Weprin with 4 Days To Go (pdf)

Voters View Turner Favorably & Are Evenly Divided on Weprin;
Say Turner's Campaign is More Positive & Weprin's is More Negative

Heading into the final days of the special election for New York's 9th Congressional District seat, Republican Robert Turner has taken a 50-44 percent lead over Democrat David Weprin, according to a Siena (College) Research Institute poll of likely 9th CD voters released today.  In Siena College's previous poll on August 10th Weprin had led Turner 48-42 percent.

Turner is viewed favorably by 48 percent of likely voters and unfavorably by 34 percent, while Weprin has a 41-41 percent favorability rating. By a 43-32 percent margin, likely voters say Turner is running the more positive campaign, and by a similar 39-30 percent margin, they say Weprin's is the more negative campaign.  

"Republican Turner heads into the final days of the campaign with a six-point lead in this heavily Democratic district after having trailedDemocrat Weprin by six points just four weeks
ago," said Siena College pollster Steven Greenberg. "Turner holds a small five-point lead in the Queens portion of the district, where he was trailing by 10 points in the previous Siena College Poll, and he has increased his lead in Brooklyn from six points previously to a now healthy 12-point bulge.

"While Turner has an overwhelming 90-6 percent lead among Republicans, Weprin has only a 63-32 percent lead among Democrats, and Turner has a 38-point lead among likely independent voters," Greenberg said.  "Currently, Turner enjoys a slightly larger lead among independent voters than Weprin has with Democrats. Weprin needs to find a way to win a larger share of Democratic and independent voters if he's going to turn
the race back around in the final days."

You can find the crosstabs here (pdf).

I found this bit quite interesting as well.

"While a plurality of voters says New York State is on the right track, nearly three-quarters of voters say the country is headed in the wrong direction," Greenberg said. "The voters' mood on the direction of the country, coupled with the unfavorable rating of President Obama - particularly among Republicans and independents - makes this a tougher election for Weprin, or for any Democrat running in this district or a district like it.

That's troubling. If a Dem running for the seat vacated by Anthony Weiner (Pelosi's decision to force him out is looking pretty dumb right about now, no?) is facing such a headwind, Dems in less friendly territory across the nation are in trouble. According to Siena, Obama's approval rating in the district is a mere 43%. In NYC.

That's very, very bad.

On the web: Weprin for Congress.

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So, do you still not care who wins NY-9? (0.00 / 0)


not really (0.00 / 0)
sorry.

TODAY is day one. It always is.

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what's the margin of error here? (0.00 / 0)
...this is very disheartening...in that, it's an indication that Turner may have the "big momentum" right now...although...the eternal optimist in me also says to...wait just a second or two...most polls have a margin of error of 3-5 percent, which means this is statistically tied, with a possible edge for Turner as far as trending his way.

The most stunning thing about this race is how Turner, who is Roman Catholic is trying to make himself out to be more pro-Israel than his Jewish opponent. Oddly enough, he seems to be getting away with it, too.

It looks to me like Turner is taking a page out of Carl Rove's 2004 playbook, whereby he decided to challenge head on one of John Kerry's potential areas of greatest strength...his war record. Apparently, Turner's decided to get very bold and blatantly challenge Weprin on his own turf, his religion.

Hopefully, Weprin can kick this up a notch, refute Turner's insinuation that he's more pro-Israel than Weprin and even, perhaps, call in a couple of "big guns" at the end of the campaign (Bill Clinton...are you out there somewhere?)


This is a PUMA district. (4.00 / 2)
According to Siena, Obama's approval rating in the district is a mere 43%. In NYC, That's very, very bad.

This district has always been hostile to Obama.

In 2008, Obama got 63% of the vote state wide, yet in NY-9 he only got 55% of the vote.

63% of the vote was the strongest showing by any presidential candidate since 1964, when LBJ scored 68%.  To put this in perspective, Franklin Roosevelt's highest victory was 58% of the state wide vote in 1936.

Yet even with Obama's state wide landslide, his share of the vote in NY-9 was actually lower than what Kerry received in 2004.  In '04, Kerry's state wide vote (58%) closely matched his NY-9 score (56%).

NY-9's hostility to Obama is long standing.


If a Dem running for the seat vacated by Anthony Weiner is facing such a headwind, Dems in less friendly territory across the nation are in trouble

How quickly we forget Kathy Hochul impressive late May victory in a red district or flipping two red districts in the Wisconsin recall last month.  


I Just Read An Email (0.00 / 0)
I got from someone I know who's volunteering in the 54th race for Gonzalez.  He said that when they passed Espada's Hqts the place was loaded with people and when he asked someone who knew the district better than him why the place was so crowded he was told that Lopez has pulled all volunteers out of CD-9 because he thinks Weprin will lose and have put them into the 54th where he still thinks they can still pull out a win.  

The real loser (0.00 / 0)
The real loser in this race could be Democratic candidates for state Senate.

The Parkside Group, a Queens-based consulting firm headed by Evan Stavisky (son of state Senator Toby Stavisky) is running Weprin's campaign. This is not surprising; when the Queens County Democratic machine is behind you, you're supposed to hire Parkside.

Parkside was the group that "helped" Mike Kaplowitz lose to Greg Ball last year. The difference with this race is that Parkside's experience outside of NYC is miniscule but the Weprin-Turner battle is in their back yard.

So why is it a loser for Democrats statewide? Because the DSCC signed an agreement that Parkside would get 80% of their business. The DSCC has never been very good at getting people elected who wouldn't have won anyway, but now that track record could get even worse.


Obama has destroyed the Democratic brand (0.00 / 1)
And is becoming as toxic as Bush was in his second term.  He lost us the House and dozens of state legislatures in 2010 and now he's going to lose us this seat.  Are all of those 2008 Obama supporters happy now?  

I'm happy enough (4.00 / 1)
and I am very confidence Obama gets re-elected

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Great (0.00 / 0)
More destruction of the Democratic party in his second term.  

[ Parent ]
I think Weprin still wins (0.00 / 0)
voter models, especially in Brooklyn, always underestimate the Democratic machine.  Not that I like said machine, but our interests can be aligned sometimes

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