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NY-26: Davis And The Rest Of The GOP Continue Slime Campaign

by: phillip anderson

Fri Aug 15, 2008 at 09:35:24 AM EDT


I really can't wait for the primary in NY-26 to be over and to finally be rid of the hackneyed awfulness that is Jack Davis' "campaign" once and for all. Today we learn that soon to be three time loser Davis is spewing forth warnings about Powers because the guy once got a ticket for...wait for it...jaywalking. No, really. When the people of the 26th have been suffering under the piss poor leadership of Davis' former party for so long, when they have seen their jobs disappear or shipped overseas for decades, while they see the foreclosure signs pop up in their neighborhoods like so many toadstools and lay awake at night hoping they won't be next, when they send their children or their their spouses or their parents off to their third or fourth tour in Iraq or wince as they spend $100 bucks just to fill up their gas tanks, Jack Davis wants them to know that Jon Powers once got a jaywalking ticket. In college. In 2004. This kind of crap is insulting to the people of the 26th. It is simply beneath anyone worthy of representing them. They have real, genuine concerns and they have desperately needed quality representation for far too long. But, Davis can't, and apparently is unwilling, to run on issues and ideas. He even is trying to paint this jaywalking ticket, for which Powers paid a whopping $25 fine, as something more ominous. Why? Because he ain't got nothing else. From the Buffalo News:

The flurry of charges and countercharges began when the Davis campaign produced documents showing that Powers, a graduate of John Carroll University in Cleveland, was cited by a Cleveland Heights, Ohio, police officer on Oct. 23, 2004, for disorderly conduct. In his citation, the officer accused Powers of directing obscene comments at him.

"People need to know this is the real Jon Powers," Davis spokesman Luke Vaughn said. "He flagrantly disrespects a police officer, is found guilty of disorderly conduct and never tells anyone. After 10 years of scandal and embarrassing headlines, we don't need more of the same - we deserve a congressman who will tell the truth."

But Powers spokeswoman Victoria Dillon saw the incident differently. She said Powers was with college friends and fellow veterans in the area, and denied at the time and denies now that he ever used obscene language in addressing the officer. She also offered to produce witnesses to back up Powers.

"At a time when he's under investigation and running from revelations of election fraud and bribery, the Davis campaign is practicing the lowest form of politics by distorting simple facts," Dillon said. "Jon was written a ticket for jaywalking, never arrested and never showed any disrespect to law enforcement."

...

Powers was fined $25 and assessed $65 in court costs.

Nice one, Jack. Next up, Jack's old GOP compatriots revealed who they really don't want to run against in November by recycling Davis' BS about Jon's involvement in War Kids Relief.

The chairmen asked Powers to answer questions about how much money was raised for the organization, how much was spent in Iraq, what programs were established in Iraq, how much money was spent on administration, and if he was afforded benefits in connection with the salary he took running the program.

Erie County Democratic Chairman Leonard R. Lenihan issued his own response:

"I wonder how many people at that press conference put their lives on the line in Iraq. How can they criticize someone who braved the horrors of that war and then willingly returned to help the many children from families that were killed or displaced by the war?

"The fact that Republicans are intervening in a Democratic primary indicates their desire to avoid facing Jon Powers in November," he added. "Haven't we had enough of this swift boat sleaze?"

So Davis and his old GOP buddies are tag teaming Jon Powers over a freaking jaywalking ticket and over his efforts to help Iraqi war orphans.

That really tells you all you need to know about who Jack Davis really is and who the GOP fears most.

On the web: Jon Powers for Congress.

phillip anderson :: NY-26: Davis And The Rest Of The GOP Continue Slime Campaign
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Meanwhile... (4.00 / 1)
Jon receives endorsements from WNY unions and releases his jobs program...

...and meets with teachers and releases his education policy papers.

All the while, we learn that Davis' bribes are under investigation...so he gets his silk panties in a bunch over a jaywalking ticket to change the subject.

I'm with you Phillip....let's get this primary so we don't have to listen to Jack anymore.

Sheesh.

We've got some work ahead of us.


If it was REALLY just a jaywalking incident... (0.00 / 0)
Then why not put Jon out there to put it to rest?  Why hide behind a spokesperson who wasn't even there?

I'm sorry, but some 29-year-old kid who can't respect authority doesn't deserve this kind of responsibility. The Republicans will trash him for having a record like this... and buh-bye goes the chance at picking this seat up.


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Can't respect authority? (0.00 / 0)
Didn't Jon serve in Iraq? Did he not move up the ranks to become a Captain? You have to be kidding me! One jaywalking incident does not constitute "having a record." On the contrary, Davis has established a record of hiding behind negative attacks which later turn out to be false.

[ Parent ]
Good point... (0.00 / 0)
If he can't respect authority, as some Davis supporters believe, then how did he become a captain in the U.S. Army? You don't get through the Army without respect for authority. I have never met a member of the military or veteran in my life who didn't have respect for authority OR respect for people.  

Support our troops, not the war.

[ Parent ]
Jon will be on Blue America at Firedoglake (0.00 / 0)
...tomorrow at 2 PM. Why not ask him yourself?

And this is absurd:

Then why not put Jon out there to put it to rest?

Are you serious? It was JAYWALKING. It doesn't rise to the level of comment.

And this is insane:

I'm sorry, but some 29-year-old kid who can't respect authority doesn't deserve this kind of responsibility.

That "29 year old kid" was a fucking Captain in the Army and served in Iraq! Respect Authority???? This from his commanding officer, Lt Col William Rubina:

The type of officer a commander only dreams of having.

Respect????!! Authority???!!!

The Republicans using this crap and Davis and probably you didn't serve in the Iraq...and judging from your comments, you seem to know little about the amount of respect for authority and country you need to have to advance to the level of Captain in the United States Army.

Push aside your fucking keyboard and dedicate a couple of years risking your life for your country and I may take your shit seriously. Get a grip.



We've got some work ahead of us.


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Lamer than lame. (0.00 / 0)
So, this is the kind of underhanded and negative nonsense you have to do (or at least spend your money having somebody do for you) to get Dick Cheney to spend time with you?  Yuk.

The good news... (0.00 / 0)
is that Lenihan stuck up for Jon. It's about damn time.  

I kinda think (0.00 / 0)
the back and forth with Dillon proved pretty clearly that it was NOT Jaywalking. What it was is TBD still.

What he did (0.00 / 0)
Was tell a cop "What are you fucking looking at Motherfucking cop" and he was charged with Disorderly Conduct

[ Parent ]
Nice link (0.00 / 0)
But you left out one thing: Jon wrote on that document that he never said that.

I guess you didn't want to mention that, did you?



Support our troops, not the war.


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Maybe I'm missing something, (0.00 / 0)
But I don't see that.

Anyways, Why would a Cop in Ohio make that up? Only one person in this equation has a reason to lie.


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oh ok (0.00 / 0)
there it is. but still, why would the cop make that up? seriously?

[ Parent ]
ummmm... (0.00 / 0)
Because cops are sometimes uptight and defensive and hear insults when young people look at them "funny" and say something they can't understand from far away?

If he were of a darker hue, he might have gotten worse.  It happens.


[ Parent ]
No one ever said... (0.00 / 0)
That the cop made it up. But Jon has denied he was the one that said it. He denied it then four years ago and he has denied it now. It could have been someone else, right? It wasn't like Jon was alone that night and I'm sure other people were out and about as well.  

Support our troops, not the war.

[ Parent ]
rememebr this guy? (0.00 / 0)
the one who was thrown to the ground by an NYPD cop in times square? here, i'll show you again.

though it certainly seemed to be an unprovoked attack by the cop, the victim was charged with attempted assault, resisting arrest and disorderly conduct.

why would a cop make stuff up? it's not like it's never happened before.

TODAY is day one. It always is.


[ Parent ]
Classy, Phillip. Classy. (0.00 / 0)
You're right

The chances are much better that the cop Jon Powers found was like that then one of 99.9% of cops who are hard-working individuals motivated by a sense of duty and decency.

So apparently, because someone you support was caught mouthing off to a cop, all of the people who get shot at to protect you and me are lying in wait just waiting to spring attacks on unsuspecting citizens.

That would be like pointing to Abu Graib to attack Powers - hey, he was a soldier in Iraq too!

You're All Class man.

All Class.


[ Parent ]
caught mouthing off to a cop? (0.00 / 0)
the cop says yes. jon says no. you decide. personally, i really couldn't possibly care less.

as for the 99.9% horseshit, i don't mean to demean the profession, but it would be ridiculous to pretend that such things don't happen. they do. every damn day. plus, you have jon disputing the cop's version right on the citation itself.

as for the rest of it, whatevs. consider your strawmen slain, dude.

you win.

TODAY is day one. It always is.


[ Parent ]
still think (0.00 / 0)
most cops are like the one that lives next door to me (and his dad, the police chief, who used to live in the house, too, before he died).  They are defensive and uptight when a group of young people appear to be threatening to them. Might not distinguish between them well.

If Jon Powers once walked across the street with an ill-mannered or rebellious fellow student, oh well.  He paid his $25.  Got issues?


[ Parent ]
A little closer to home (0.00 / 0)
http://www.buffalonews.com/hom...

  Don't judge other people by your own limitations.

[ Parent ]
Oh Stephen... (0.00 / 0)
Police officers aren't perfect. They will be the first to tell you that. If you have a crowd of people and someone yells something, how are you going to identify that person if you didn't see him say it to your face or you weren't looking right at him when he said it?

In fact Stephen, read that statement given by the cop. All he does is repeat the law and then the only explanation given is what Jon allegedly said: "Language to wit: What are you f*cking looking at motherf*cking cop?"

If that's all we have to go off of, that thing should have been flushed down the drain. I don't care if the witness is a police officer or not. If that's the only explanation of the events in question, then that thing should have been thrown out.

Look Stephen, you have been a closet anti-Powers person for months now. You kept criticizing him, saying he needed to do this and do that before becoming a serious candidate and not giving him credit where credit is due. For months now you have shown this to us. You can tell me you are undecided or whatever you want to throw out there, but the truth is that you are already decided. You won't be voting for Jon Powers in September or November.  

Support our troops, not the war.


you're right, I'm not voting for him (0.00 / 0)
As I've explained to you before, I don't live in the district. I live on the northern edge of Cheektowaga, literally a 15 second walk from Amherst and the 26th. Brian Higgins can expect my congressional vote.

As to Powers, you have consistently missed my nuanced Point of View. I supported him whole-heartedly last year. I wanted him to win, to be our nominee, for the same reasons all of you still do.

Then he pissed me off when he hired a bag of cabbage for a campaign manager. But still, I carried petitions around northern Erie County for Powers. I met his field Director, the very competent Sara. I contributed $$ and brought my kids to one of his fundraisers. I hoped that he could pull his campaign together, raise some money, and pull this out.

I came here - TAP - in the beginning of the year to voice my support and learn more about the Aubertine race. But when I voiced my concerns about Powers' campaign, I was attacked for it. I got defensive, as people do. I strongly felt then and in retrospect believe I was right that Powers was not doing the things needed to win. As to me being an ass around here in regards to Powers, that's really been more about you saying I'm wrong and me wanting to shove it in your face that I'm not wrong. I'm a bad person. Sue me.

Now I'm sick to death of Powers, mostly because he's clearly going to lose this primary, and those supporting him are too stubborn and too blind to see it. But if I lived in the district, Yes, I'd still be considering him, because Jack Davis doesn't feel right either. Neither one of them does. I'm glad I don't have to choose. Not that it'll be close enough to matter.

So yes. You caught me. I'm not Powers #1 fan anymore, and I haven't been for months.

Now please, when Powers loses, don't be bitter and vote for him on the WF line in November.

You won't hear from me on this again until September 9th. Good luck til then.


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Ah, I see Stephen... (0.00 / 0)
So Powers irked you when he hired Gerken? That's your reason for your displeasure with Powers? Now things are beginning to be more clear.

Look, I know that people have choice opinions about Gerken. But critiquing a candidate based on who his campaign manager is shouldn't be how we vote for our candidates. I can't stand the likes of Howard Wolfson, Mark Penn and others, but if Hillary was our nominee, I'd vote for her. I could care less what a campaign staff is doing as long as the candidate is doing the right things and living up to promises. In the end, it's a volunteer base and hard work that will win. Powers has proven that he is willing to work hard and hit the ground.

You can act as if you were attacked, but I replied to you on your assertions that Powers would need $1 million by [insert date here], among other things. I told you then that if money truly mattered, Davis would have won four years ago or two years ago.

And if Powers loses, I will not be voting for the Democrat. People can chastise me for that decision, but I'm sick of voting for a loser. I will vote for Powers on the WFP line.

But Powers won't lose. He will win. And if Davis does win, you will see a lot of Democrats walk away from that race. A LOT of Democrats, especially with how personal the Davis campaign has gotten with Powers.  

Support our troops, not the war.


[ Parent ]
So, Robert-- (0.00 / 0)
Don't know Gerken, but do know cabbage... is "bag of cabbage" a term that means he is rural or hick-like?  Not all slick TV stuff?

[ Parent ]
Gerken is no bag of cabbage (0.00 / 0)
Gerken is a city boy and a lawyer, if I remember correctly. So I don't think "bag of cabbage" was meant to be a rural insult.  

Support our troops, not the war.

[ Parent ]
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